Talk:Frankston, Victoria
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Not a suburb
[edit]Note that Frankston is not a suburb of Melbourne (according to the City of Frankston, and Vic Roads). It is a separate city.
- We use the ABS and Department of Local Government definition of the Melbourne metropolitan area, which ends at Casey to the southeast and Mornington Peninsula to the south - it is confusing as several entities (Frankston, Stonnington, Boroondara, Darebin, Wyndham etc) are called cities from a local government point of view but are actually metropolitan councils within Melbourne. The suburb of Frankston is very different to the City of Frankston. Note this problem isn't exclusive to Melbourne, we have occasional issues regarding Rockingham (a far southern part of Perth metro) in the WA project. Orderinchaos 07:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Origins of Frankston
[edit]A contraction of Frank's Town from the first settlement in the area that is Frank's Pub, does anyone have any more substantial evidence to this? I used to see it somewhere but I have no concrete source --Bobbagum 01:03, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Little bit about that here: http://www.walkabout.com.au/locations/VICFrankston.shtml --Commking 25 October 2005
- There doesn't seem to be any real "proof" about the above story. The "Encyclopedia of Melbourne" which is out late last year lists the information that I've provided in the Frankston article - that Frankston's named after a Mr Frankston. The story about it being Frank Stone's pub on the corner of (then) Pt Nepean Rd and Hastings Rd is told and told but I haven't found any proof. Tonzo 17 January 2006
Deleting irrelevant info
[edit]Hey, I'm considering deleting the line about the Pines football league from this article, as it strikes me as irrelevant, pointless, unnotable and vain. Wikipedia articles are supposed to be factual, verifiable, and neutral, and opinion on how tough Frankston kids play their footy doesn't match this criteria. Anybody have a strong opinion on why I should leave this alone before I do this? - Vaelor 15:23, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I would support deleting the line about the Pines (it was rather strongly put, wasn't it), and putting in things about Kananook Creek and Oliver's Hill instead, and even the Civic Centre and the Centre for Contemporary Art and about its sister city (or is that a matter for the City Council article, I wonder?). It would be highly beneficial to see this article focus on the cultural and natural aspects of Frankston. - EuropracBHIT 04:57, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC).
- I strongly agree there, some more factual information about Frankston's landmarks and geography would be better suited here than the opinionative rubbish this article used to display. Though this could be said about a lot of the Melbourne suburb articles here... - Vaelor 05:55, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I think we need something about the Pines. It's a well known feature of Frankston after all. (and go easy on me, this is my first post to Wikipedia, and I am still trying to fugure out the editing)Commking
- The Pines is a well-known feature of Frankston but it is actually part of the suburb of Frankston North and so there should be stuff about it there. Tonzo 17 January 2006
Notable Frankstonians
[edit]Another candidate: Lee Harding, Australian Idol contestant for 2005 apparently is a local. He worked at the AMC cinemas in Wells Street.. I am also reliably informed that Mick Malloy used to work at the Pier Hotel on Nepean Highway - not sure if he lived locally or not. And James Reyne is apparently from Mount Eliza. --Commking 2 October 2005
John Farnham also used to be a resident of The Pines estate.. --Commking 5 November 2005 God no wonder he never brings this up, i would feel embarrassed as well.
- If there's some 'proof' to this and an attributable source it's something that should go in. Once again we need to be careful to distinguish Frankston from other suburbs. Mount Eliza is not Frankston. Dame Elisabeth Murdoch is listed in the article but she actually lives on Cruden Farm which is in Langwarrin. Most of the other suburb entries for Melbourne don't contain a "notable persons" list so I'm not sure if this is something that should be developed further or ditched in the interests of consistency. Notable Seafordians, anyone? Tonzo 17 January 2006 0948 UTC
Social Conditions
[edit]Every second property is a housing comission slum, full of unmarried mothers and drug dealers. Bloody true, my oath!!!!!
You can also add that Frankston is one of the most likely places in Victoria to be Bashed or murdered. Recently The bashed Busker, body on the beach and woman stabbed to death in her drive way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.207.229 (talk) 06:39, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
The article states Major automotive retailers operate along Dandenong Road, in the suburb's north-west. Do you mean Frankston-Dandenong Road? Or do they mean Wells street? And isn't North West take you into the bay? --Commking 04:59, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- They're located in Dandenong Road West and Wells Road, which are north-east of the Frankston CBD but north-west of the suburb centre. Frankston-Dandenong Road is another road. I don't think this is particularly notable or interesting though. ozzmosis 05:59, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- No it's not particularly noticeable or interesting; I guess I put this in as it just demonstrates the kind of light industrial and other retail in the suburb; I haven't put Bunnings and JB Hi-Fi in and I think they should get a mention. Tonzo 17 January 2006 0948 UTC
- Make sure you mention the crap car parking --211.28.56.69 11:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, car parking isn't very limited around JB Hi-Fi & Bunnings. Parking in Frankston CBD has improved a lot over the recent years, but it's often metered, which is probably only a big deal if you work there. I'm not sure any of that should be in the article, but I'm just replying because you brought it up! ozzmosis 12:02, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Er, 'parking is very limited'! ozzmosis 12:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Car Parking at JB is so bad! How in gods name did they get a building permit with such a small amount of car spaces? Everywhere else it's fine, but Saturday mornings in Bayside is a pain also.. --Commking 04:49, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Presumably they want everyone to use the car park at Bunnings? :) ozzmosis 04:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Car parking has improved in central Frankston; the meters in council-run parking has now been lifted but Gandel (who own the shopping centres) won't be doing the same. Parking at JB is very limited and, as a cyclist, is non-existent! This area has extremely poor planning and I have no idea how it won planning approval. tonzo 12:12, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Can't park at Bunnings so easily any more - they've built a fence around the car park so it's a longer walk out via Bunnings's driveway.. What the hell is going with the vacant land behind JB's anyway? --Commking 23:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Landmarks
[edit]There are more landmarks in Frankston that listed here for sure. What about:
- Frankston Waterfront
- Peninsula Centre (Ok, it's ugly, but a very well known landmark)
- Frankston Arts Centre
- Bayside Shopping Centre
- Karingal Shopping Centre
Frankston High School is also one of the top government schools in the state.
Anyone got any others? --Commking 10:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
A pretty pathetic list of landmarks I must say. The ugliest building in Melbourne, two shopping centres and a high school. Not exactly the Taj Mahal. Now I remember why I left dear old Frangers as soon as I saved up the train fare. Adam 10:48, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
- Frankston isn't Noosa mate, but it's not Dandenong either. Whatever the opinion, they are Landmarks. Thanks for your "contribution"! --Commking 22:33, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Frankston Freeway / Mornington Peninsula Freeway Link
[edit]Everybody, except Vicroads, knows Eastlink will cause traffic problems at the end of the Frankston Freeway. Our Federal member, Bruce Billson, has taken on the task of getting everybody together to try to get the freeway built, bypassing Frankston and Mooroduc Road. Personally I think it's a stunt with no chance of success, but I hope I'm wrong. I think I'd like to add this long planned freeway to the article, as part of a larger section on Frankston's transport links. good idea or not? --Commking 00:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- The article definitely needs a Transport section, not least because Frankston provides the only real north-south land transport corridors through to/from the peninsula (with the exception of Dandenong-Hastings Road, which bypasses Frankston). --ozzmosis 05:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Frankstoners vs Frankstonians
[edit]Where has the term 'Frankstonians' come from? Frankstonian is a rubbish term, no such thing at all. bloody made up lies, Frank stoner would be more applicable. REF All the drug effected idiots in frankston. Why not Frankstoners? --Tangerineduel 13:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Because that's the derogatory term, as true as it may possibly be.
Frankstonians is the agreed upon name of a Frankston resident. Incorporating "stoner" isn't smart or funny mate. Camm1987 09:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, yeah, there is that. I can't say I've ever read it (or indeed said it like that), in conversations it's always seemed to jump that with a bit of a mumble becoming Frankston'rs...or something like that...but yes, Frankstonians...or just Frankston residents is a far less...inflammatory title. --Tangerineduel 12:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
So why is there nomention that many people call the place "Franga"? Good question, especially after going down to the beach on saturday morning. Actually its called Franga town and for good reason. Frankston AKA Funkytown; it is a funky town, and no mistake. Old Frank Stoner knew his stuff, named it well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.74.176 (talk) 03:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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