Talk:World War I

GA request

A couple of editors have worked hard to tidy up this article and I understand one has put in a GA requests. It looks like they have made considerable improvements, but I think there are still quite a few problems and it probably would have been more productive if there was more discussion of the recent changes on the Talkpage before the GA request was made. Some concerns I have are:

1) Overlinking. The lead has too many links making it look like a sea of blue. There is no need to link common words like "machine gun" and the names of well known countries etc. There are also multiple examples of the same thing being linked more than once.

2) Some of the sourcing looks dubious. There are some pretty controversial assertions which are linked to websites or media articles rather than scholarly sources.

3) I have concerns over the balance of the article: with some relatively less important events with their own articles getting too much space in what should be a high level summary article.

4) The collage and other aspects of the info box needs improvement and more input from interested editors would be valuable.

I don't have the time at the moment to make detailed edits but I would be interested in comments from other editors with good knowledge of the subject. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 23:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Is this article stable enough for an enhanced status? I doubt that. The Banner talk 15:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I have removed the GAN per WP:GANI: the edits made by the nominator were not significant contributions in terms of content, and the discussion on this page makes it clear that there are substantial issues remaining. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I QFed it but the nominator seemed to complain so I ended up G7ing it. xq 12:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Commanders and leaders

I think the Italian leader should be changed to Victor Emmanuel III since he was King of Italy for the whole duration of the war. Orlando was only Prime Minister for about the last year of the war. Also, since both British leaders are listed, I also think that Charles I of Austria should also be listed since Franz Joseph I died about halfway through the war. Does anyone have any thoughts? 2601:84:847F:2DF0:8C37:7D5:223:722 (talk) 23:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE, entries need to be supported by the body of the article. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:09, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

So based on this policy, it seems Yoshihito for Japan should be removed as well because he is not mentioned in the article anywhere. Alexysun (talk) 22:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Raymond Poincaré is also not mentioned in the article anywhere. Removing from infobox for now. Alexysun (talk) 22:35, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

@Cinderella157 Though there is actually this rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules (Wikipedia:Ignore all rules) Alexysun (talk) 22:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

WP:IAR comes with caveats. Without the body of the article evidencing why the a commander/leader was key or significant, the reader has no idea why a particular person appears in the infobox. The caveats of WP:IAR would not be met. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:03, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

@Cinderella157 Would you like to remove Raymond Poincaré from the infobox then? Alexysun (talk) 20:36, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done Cinderella157 (talk) 22:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

You should only ignore rules if you have a good reason. We're saying the rule exists for a good reason and you don't have a better one, unfortunately. Remsense诉 02:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I am thinking similarly. I was wondering why the leader of Italy is not listed in the infobox. Alexysun (talk) 23:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

The representative for Italy

I temporarily added Orlando as Prime Minister for Italy . But there has been changes for Prime Mimister for Italy during the war . Like Salandra then Boselli until to Orlando. Regards from Jheeeeeeteegh (talk) 12:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

See comment/thread immediately above. Entries should be supported by body of article. Cinderella157 (talk) 21:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

@Cinderella157 Are you saying that Orlando has to be mentioned in the body paragraphs to be in the infobox? Alexysun (talk) 21:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Not only must they be mentioned in the body of the article but in a way that evidences that they were a key or significant commander in the context of the article - ie it would not be sufficient for the article to just mention their name or that they were a prime minister. Cinderella157 (talk) 22:59, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

@Jheeeeeeteegh I did not see you make an edit? Alexysun (talk) 21:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Philippe Pétain has an RfC

Philippe Pétain has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Emiya1980 (talk) 03:03, 18 August 2024 (UTC)