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TokenEx[edit]

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Article fails to establish notability under WP:NCORP.

References include: - Two local news articles (Tulsa World, The Oklahoman) - Two trade press article (PYMNTS, SatelliteTODAY) - One press release (PRNewswire)

Most coverage is brief and concerns partnerships with other companies. Brandon (talk) 23:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jujaksan[edit]

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I can only find the book reference to this article pointing to the mountain. Doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV to meet WP:NOTABILITY. Normanhunter2 (talk) 23:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep; There's a surprisingly large amount of writing on it in the Korean language. [1] (The Chosun Ilbo), [2] (Yonhap News Agency), [3] (NewsPim), [4] (Seoul Finance),[5] (Encyclopedia of Korean Local Culture). 211.43.120.242 (talk) 10:45, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sources you put there don't meet the significance of Jujaksan being added on article. This does not tell what Jujaksan is about. Something like a history, legacy, or even a sufficient background will achieve its notability here. This also mentions the mountain, but it doesn't state specifically what the mountain is about and it's characteristics, besides people visiting the Korean mountain, which is mainly what the sources are about.

Let me step aside from the rambling for a second here, according to WP:NMAG, it clearly states that there needs to be reliable, independent sources that can fit into the article. Those are good sources for information, but not specific to this article because it doesn't directly state what the mountain is about. Normanhunter2 (talk) 17:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please mind the tone, bordering on preachy. NMAG is about the notability of periodicals and not places/mountains. Some of the sources I gave discuss the mountain itself, not just tourism for it. If not satisfied yet, I'll provide some more.

[6] This source discusses the height, characteristics (number of peaks) of the mountain. [7] This discusses the flora on it. [8] This has an overview description of the mountain and its facilities.

I found these after less than a minute of googling in Korean. I'm assuming you're using machine translation, please give it a few gos in Korean yourself. If there's anything missing I'll do more googling until you're satisfied. I'm very confident, based on the unusual sheer density of the sources on this mountain (Korea has a ton of mountains, many are obscure), that this one is notable. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 23:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's no history of the mountain, which is what I was concerned about. No photos of the mountain on the article, no history besides characteristics that doesn't give a basic overview of the article itself. It's just baseless sources. I've done a little research on the mountain (I didn't think of googling it in Korean), and I didn't find any history. Have a look at WP:GEONATURAL. One more thing here, those sources you provided again are not precise at all. I read the whole article on the sources you've provided and it only briefly mentions it. Normanhunter2 (talk) 12:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(this is 211.43.120.242, posted while on the move) Again, please watch tone. My work is not baseless, you can disagree with it (as I still disagree with you), but I wouldn't describe your opinions that way.

"Baseless" is not a precise word in the context of notability. Description of history is not a required feature for a page's notability, per the exact policy you linked 211.36.142.217 (talk) 03:13, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess we'll see what others think. Normanhunter2 (talk) 23:30, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fleshed out article more with sources. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 23:56, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lottie Tomlinson[edit]

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I believe this person fails WP:BIO, only sources I could find are passing mentions related to her more famous brother Louis Tomlinson or promotional tabloid stuff. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 23:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Very much a WP:NOTINHERITED case here. Nate • (chatter) 23:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Kang Ryong-woon[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kang Myong-sam[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jong Su-hyok[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jong Kwang-sok[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hot model[edit]

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This is a article which can only be understood in terms of a larger inclusive subject, and one which must be covered in larger inclusive articles. It should not be a separate thing. Qwirkle (talk) 22:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, after merging anything worthwhile into relevant topics (it isn't immediately clear which, since our coverage of climate change modelling seems fragmented as it is). There is nothing in any source cited to justify treating the article topic as anything more than a single facet of a broader subject, and doing so is almost certainly detrimental to understanding of the science behind climate modelling. It is liable to give the misleading impression (at least, I hope it is misleading - if it isn't, it doesn't say much for scientific rigour) that specific climate models are being rejected solely because they give results which differ from those previously obtained. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:05, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not quite that. A subset models are being rejected because they give results that different from those previously obtained by other methods. Specifically, the models conflict with 'real world' data like satellite observations. This makes it more understandable that, when modelled data and empirical data conflict, most climate scientists prefer the empirical data. Still, you hit on the reason why this is an ongoing subject of debate, see e.g. [9][10] for accessible summaries. That is why I thought we have an article about the phenomenon and why I'm disappointed to see it nominated for deletion. If merged elsewhere, I think readers will struggle to find information on this subject specifically. – Joe (talk) 08:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. I'm not really sure how to respond to this nomination. The subject is clearly notable – the five sources cited in the article are just a small subset of those available. can only be understood in terms of a larger inclusive subject is not an argument for deletion I've encountered before and seems to be flatly contradicted by Wikipedia:Summary style. That it must be covered in larger inclusive articles and should not be a separate thing are just bare assertions, no? I obviously disagree. – Joe (talk) 08:21, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Riyadh School of Tourism and Hospitality[edit]

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Stub about a proposed future institute based entirely on PR. I don’t think this organisation is yet notable. Mccapra (talk) 21:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shafqat Baloch[edit]

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The subject fails to meet the GNG. I don't see sig/in-depth coverage. While he received a military award, so have thousands of other soldiers, but that doesn't mean we should create biographies for all of them citing ANYBIO. Fwiw- the bio contains WP:OR , contains PROMO, is unsourced and flagged for copyvio as well. Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: @Saqib, I've readded some info removed over copyright after fixing it which goes into detail on his role in 65 war. Waleed (talk) 16:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no SIGCOV in RS. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No coverage in depth based on any independent or reliable sources thus it discouraged me from opposing the idea of D-Prod.223.123.5.35 (talk) 00:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'm sorry Saqib; although I share with you that this article exists in a terrible condition and has a plenty of WP:OR, we can't deny the fact that it passes WP:ANYBIO and should be kept. Nawaiwaqt has a detailed article of Shafqat Baloch dated 2 September 2019, although not much Nation reports his death in more than a paragraph. This should also be helpful. His role has had a significant impact, as well. _signed,Aafi ^(talk) 07:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Aafi, OK, I value your opinion, but I'd like to point out that the coverage in Nawaiwaqt is a column, an opinion piece, by guest columnist Aslam Lodhi and the coverage in the other sources is either routine or trivial mentions, none of which meet the GNG criteria. These sources can indeed be used for WP:V purposes but not suitable for establishing GNG, where the threshold is higher. Anyway, I don't have anything more to add on this. As for WP:ANYBIO, I've clarified my concerns above. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Saqib, thanks for adding these two cents. I did not say that these are enough for GNG but we have an established practice of SNGs and it is really not necessary that each and everything would pass GNG. Those that don't are finely evaluated by SNG practices of which ANYBIO is one. This subject has twice received a highest military award in their country and this is verified, and all that routine/minimal/short/whatever, information, is only helpful to support the claims. GNG is just impossible for everything, and as you say, nothing else needs to be said. If a thousand soldiers, authors or anyone else, pass any of our subjective criterias, it is really within our scope to have articles/short biographies of them created on this encyclopedia, or otherwise just collectively cancel all of these subjective criterias, if we don't want to. _signed,Aafi ^(talk) 09:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:NBIO and WP:GNG. All sources have no in-depth coverage. AmericanY (talk) 07:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Isn't this an evidence of SIGCOV. A twice award recipient of the third highest military honor is notable. What is it with this deletion? Is there anything am missing? Sources seems to be offline. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 22:23, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is seriously no problem. The subject clearly passes a subjective notability criteria and GNG/SIGCOV is really not a thing here. If we discard subjective notability here, I guess a huge bulk of articles would need to be wiped up and all ther subjective criteria's discarded. _signed,Aafi ^(talk) 18:11, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Subject passes WP:ANYBIO, He has received the Sitara-e-Jurat Award twice. Youknow? (talk) 15:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Significant coverage [11] enough to pass notability. 2404:3100:144D:486A:1:0:87B8:496E (talk) 06:05, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Briefly mentioned in articles about the movie (source 7), but I don't find much of anything about this person otherwise. Oaktree b (talk) 23:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ammar Kofi[edit]

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Crosswiki spam of a singer of very doubtful notability. Long past the time limit for draftification without a consensus here, and I think deletion would be appropriate. Mccapra (talk) 21:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This [12] appears to be an interview... It's about all I find. The article now only has one source. Even with the one I found, we still don't have enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 23:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Coalition to Reduce Spending[edit]

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I'm cleaning up articles tagged with puffery and advert. This one seems to be sourced with sources controlled by the founder, and is beyond saving. Any independent coverage is mostly about the founder. It doesn't even seem to be around anymore, per the web site. A merge and redirect looks to be the best path. See earlier deletion discussion, with a similar suggestion, where sources were equally poor but standards seemed to be lower. Ticoeditor (talk) 21:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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AbdolReza Razmjoo[edit]

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A previous article on this person was deleted at AFD in 2020. This one is different enough such that CSD G4 doesn't apply, but I still don't think he has received enough significant coverage in reliable sources to meet WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. DanCherek (talk) 21:17, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Only sources I find are where to stream his songs. what's used now in the article doesn't seem helpful, a registration number and his own website, then some allmusic listings. Lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 03:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't delete: He is a composer and expert of Iranian radio and television, as well as the composer of several symphonies and film scores2A01:5EC0:781E:549C:99AD:7DEB:D56:1127 (talk) 01:01, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Association for Business Communication[edit]

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No indication of notability, cannot find sources besides routine press releases. Fails WP:NORG JayJay^{What did I do?} 21:04, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kamal Gray[edit]

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Per WP:BANDMEMBER, Redirect to The Roots#Band lineup. Extremely little coverage can be found to justify notability, except articles about his donation of 25,000$ and a strange biographical article/interview/financial advice piece [13] published by UBS. Broc (talk) 20:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The articles about his donations are in reputable sources and speak to his notability as a member of The Roots, and the genre/format of the UBS article is not relevant to whether it counts as a source to establish notability. His notability comes from his being a member of The Roots and the sources confirm that. Hexatekin (talk) 03:13, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sadakiyans[edit]

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I was not able to verify the existence of this dynasty - the four references used in the article are also difficult to verify. Semsûrî (talk) 19:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Cambridge History of Iran, Vol. 4, p. 227: "In other towns, too, Arab chieftains came to build their castles and dominated the inhabitants ... in Urmiya Sadaqa b. 'Ali, a client of Azd". See also https://iranicaonline.org/articles/rawwadids. I cannot verify the article as a whole or confirm if this is a notable dynasty, but it does not appear to be a fabrication. Srnec (talk) 00:10, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete sourcing is weak, and does not sufficiently convey the idea of a "dynasty"; if the individuals involved are notable, they should have their own article, but their three-generation "dynasty" is almost certainly not. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reason that there is so little knowledge about them is that they lived over 1,000 years ago and only ruled for around 50 years in a region wich was made up of villages, lots of mountains and a few small cities. Besides that, they seem to be the first Kurdish dynasty in History, so little information is to be expected. Karkafs Desiderium (talk) 00:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arjun Tudu[edit]

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The page was previously deleted because it fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG and it still holds true. Coderzombie (talk) 10:25, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Per nom and per WP:BIO. The subject does not meet notability and biography is not enough to deserve attention or to be recorded. Poor sources with no WP:SIGCOV. RangersRus (talk) 13:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Simply having a biography isn't enough for inclusion. If reliable sources can be found to establish notability, the article could be rewritten and resubmitted for review. Waqar💬 16:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - @RangersRus:, @Iwaqarhashmi:, I found [14], [15], [16], [[17], [18], [19], [20], among many more English and Hindu sources (not to mention other Indian languages. Cleary was sigifnicant ifgure in Indian lower league football and was even called up to the senior India national team. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 04:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: Das osmnezz (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
Most of these sources are interviews and paid promotions and do not help pass WP:NFOOTY. The player has not garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements because he has not played at an international level and he has not played for an entirely professional league to satisfy WP:GNG. He is an upcoming player but it is too early to warrant a page on this subject because of insufficient significant achievements.

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ALl of the sources have tons of secondary coverage that I will gladly cite if asked and there is no indication that any of them are paid promotions... Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 05:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete doesn't appear to have ever played in a notable league BFC Aspie (talk) 17:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 18:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep—I wanted to vote the opposite way, because this article is absolutely atrocious in its current state, but there is clearly enough coverage to meet WP:SIGCOV. Anwegmann (talk) 01:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - To the closer, all delete votes are by users who seldom vote on football deletion debates who still think that players have to both meet WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Cleary was significant figure in Indian lower league football and was even called up to the senior India national team. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 05:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"called up to the senior India national team" is not notability. If he played for national team, that would be something to consider. If he was just called up then it is also case of WP:TOOSOON. RangersRus (talk) 19:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thats one of my more minor points, my point is that he was considered such a good player and significant figure in Indian lower leagues that he was called up to senior nationl team. This proves my point that all delete votes are by users who seldom vote on football deletion debates who still think that players have to both meet WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Either way, he has many secondary sources about him. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 23:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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General Airconditioners[edit]

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WP:BLAR was reverted, bringing it to AfD. Does not fulfill WP:NCORP due to lack of significant coverage in secondary sources. Redirect to Fujitsu#Fujitsu General Broc (talk) 20:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect to Fujitsu#Fujitsu General. I can not find any significant coverage in reliable secondary independent sources. Sources are poor to unreliable on the page. RangersRus (talk) 21:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Fujitsu#Fujitsu General per nom; brand was established in the 1960s to establish an 'English name' and over time, people became fine with Fujitsu as part of it. About as standard a brand story as you can get. Nate • (chatter) 23:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Raw to the Bone[edit]

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Only minimal coverage of this album can be found to fulfill WP:NALBUM: a short review in The Ottawa Citizen and an entry with a star-rating but no additional comment in The encyclopedia of popular music. Not enough for notability, Redirect to Wishbone Ash#Discography Broc (talk) 20:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There's way more than that out there, and I'll write a fully expanded, referenced article about this album when I have time. I'm working on their previous album at the moment. Until then, it should probably be a redirect. Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zang Toi[edit]

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Very questionable notability based on a lack of WP:RS Amigao (talk) 20:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Howard Lerner[edit]

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Reviewed during NPP. No indicatiob of wp:notability under SNG or GNG. Basic resume type material. Was a journalist, then started a coffee house, then a coffee flavoring company and now runs a web design company. The closest thing to a GNG references is (circa now) #3 which is an interview. #1 is a bio on his employer's web site, #2 appears to be a self-written bio. Tagged by others for notability since January. North8000 (talk) 18:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Tax accountant, a doctor and an obituary for three unrelated people are what I find... Nothing about this individual, who appears to have had a rather routine life. I don't see why he's notable. Oaktree b (talk) 00:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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St. Silas Abba[edit]

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There are only two sources backing this article: the first one is not to be found, while the second one refers to St. Silas instead. I suspect this person to be fictitious, and the article possibly a prank. Lone-078 (talk) 18:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sustainable Land Use Forum[edit]

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I am struggling to find significant contemporary or historical references to SLUF. Clearly it did exist in the early part of the 21st century - but I am not sure of its notability. Perhaps others can find material to justify its retention. As an example - https://www.ordaethiopia.org/index.php/about-us- mentions SLUF as a network that it was part of, but gives no details. Newhaven lad (talk) 18:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of programmes broadcast by Zee Telugu#Drama series. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kalyana Vaibhogam (TV series)[edit]

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With the exception of this (which is just a rehash of a social media post, the rest of the references are WP:NEWSORGINDIA all out of the same publication. A WP:BEFORE found no better references (note that this not the same as the film Kalyana Vaibhogam). Attempted a redirect as an WP:ATD but it was restored by an IP. CNMall41 (talk) 18:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Zee_Telugu#Drama_series -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Zee_Telugu#Drama_series. Poor sources with no significant coverage and critical reviews on the series. RangersRus (talk) 21:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Assembly Line[edit]

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No sources, fails WP:NCORP. A search is tough due to the generic name, but what I could find was only trivial coverage. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Manuel D'Lima[edit]

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under SNG or GNG. None of the sources are about him. Sources (and much of the content) are about taitrs. Material on him is just resume type material. North8000 (talk) 17:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Poor to unreliable sources with no significant coverage on the subject. The subject fails notability. RangersRus (talk) 18:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Shooters United Padne[edit]

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PROD and draftification contested by creator. No WP:SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources to meet WP:GNG (Google search). Teams must meet WP:GNG per WP:NTEAM. Notability is not inherited. C F A 💬 17:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Kerala Premier League, or draftify, with the possibility of an article sometime in the future if they gain some significant coverage. The best I could find in a WP:BEFORE search in English or Malayalam (ഷൂട്ടേഴ്സ് യുണൈറ്റഡ്) was passing mentions in the Times of India [21] and Manorama [22]. Wikishovel (talk) 18:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Clappers Records[edit]

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I just attempted to find sourcing for this article in effort to conduct wp:before and no significant citations exist that demonstrate wp:n. I would like to propose either a move to a larger article on reggae or outright deletion. This article has clearly been lingering for a very long time without any significant improvements. Variety312 (talk) 22:24, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kanyadan (Marathi TV series)[edit]

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Another WALLEDGARDEN of adaptions of television shows based on Kanyaadaana. Nominating this as opposed to mass deletion nomination in hopes of getting input on the others. This adaption is not notable as there is no significant coverage. The references are mainly about the original show or fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA or otherwise unreliable. Redirect would be a good WP:ATD. CNMall41 (talk) 16:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect to Kanyadaan_(2020_TV_series)#Adaptations. Poor sources with no significant coverage and critical reviews on the series. RangersRus (talk) 18:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mario A. Guerra[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL, WP:NAUTHOR, WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. No sufficient source to satisfy any application specific or general criteria. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. As always, mayors are not "inherently" notable just for existing, and have to pass WP:NPOL #2 on significant reliable source coverage that enables us to write a substantial article about their political impact. This, however, features virtually none of the type of content (significant things he did, specific projects he spearheaded, specific effects his mayoralty had on the development of the city, etc.) that we would need to see, and is instead devoted almost entirely to things he did before or after the mayoralty rather than anything he did in the mayoralty — and it's referenced predominantly to primary sources that are not support for notability at all, while the few third-party footnotes come entirely from a weekly community hyperlocal rather than GNG-worthy media of record, and are mainly sourcing things like "former mayor has sports complex named after him" (which is not a notability criterion) and "former mayor pens open letter thanking the community" (which is really just another primary source, since he wrote it himself). This isn't what it takes to get a mayor over the wikibar. Bearcat (talk) 13:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The subject meets the criteria of WP:GNG as these three sources have significant coverage and are independent as well, hence reliable:
- [23]
- [24]
- [25].

He is a recipient of Romualdo Pacheco Award as well. [26] Macyramps (talk) 15:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I struggle to see any sourcing that points to the political impact of the subject, as Bearcat describes. The LA Times articles are a bit better, but one one of them is primarily about the subject, and even that article is just that he was selected to lead a regional association. --Enos733 (talk) 16:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"The association is made up of about 50 Southern California cities that run their own police and fire departments, hence the “independent” designation. Combined, they represent more than 7 million people." - it doesn't seem to be a regional association. Macyramps (talk) 08:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nonhlanhla Joye[edit]

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WP:BLP of a social entrepreneur, not properly referenced as passing inclusion criteria for entrepreneurs. The attempted notability claim here, that she founded an organization, would be fine if the article were reliably sourced to WP:GNG-worthy coverage about her in real media of record, but this as written is referenced far, far too heavily to primary source content self-published by organizations she's directly affiliated with, and shows very little evidence of third-party coverage about her in independent GNG-worthy sources. Bearcat (talk) 16:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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weak delete: Should be notable, but there just isn't much coverage... A PBS interview here [27] and a brief mention here in a French article [28]. Oaktree b (talk) 00:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kingdom Achievers Award[edit]

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Disputed PROD. My PROD rationale still stands, notability isn't automatic or inherited. There are so many awards out there that are being awarded to entities but an award's significance isn't solely determined by the prestige of the awarding entity or the notable recipients. Instead, verifiable evidence from reliable sources is required to substantiate claims of notability. These sources must specifically focus on the award itself, providing in-depth information. Sources primarily highlighting award recipients rather than the award itself don't establish notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedly Keep: Article meets wikipedia:Notability, Also meets GNG, all the source are reliable, independent sources and it’s not inherited Notability, i suggest the nominator searches the topic and read through the article, as it’s a Gospel niche award and has multiple references from reliable source, the nominator has always been on my watch and nominates all my article for deletion and i think it’s likely a bad faith nomination but I’ll love to hear from other editors, thanks Madeforall1 (talk) 16:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Madeforall1 speedy keep only applies in certain situations listed at WP:SKCRIT, none of which apply. If there are additional sources with WP:SIGCOV please consider expanding the article with them to facilitate analysis by other editors, it is not a requirement but definitely helps, thanks. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:199B:E3C0:2FAB:D007 (talk) 18:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – I find the idea that sources need to "specifically focus on the award" as overly strict; if major independent outlets are choosing to cover the announcement of nominees and winners, that conveys a degree of significance to those awards. In other words, there may not be significant coverage of the awards as an organization, but there is significant coverage of them as an event. Having worked a fair amount with TV and film award articles, I think this is in line with other examples (as an example, see Los Angeles Film Critics Association, which is basically just about the awards presented by the organization – the sources cover the ceremonies/nominees/winners, not the organization). RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add the caveat that I don't know enough about Nigerian media to say if the sources here are generally reliable, but since that wasn't the issue raised in the nomination, I'm assuming they are. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t see how covering the award itself is a strict measure. How then do we measure the significance of a subject? There are so many awards out there that are being awarded to recipients at events, that aren’t notable awards, even campus/college/university awards are also being awarded at ceremonies, I don’t see how that generally counts towards establishing GNG. These coupled with the fact that most of these pieces from the sources used are just overly promotional and unreliable, WP:GNG isn’t anywhere closely established. Also, using Los Angeles Film Critics Association is a poor comparison, you can’t exactly say an award that has been awarded for over 30 years won’t satisfy GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TJ Rovinka[edit]

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This is a long-unsourced article of a football club that seems to have never played in the highest Slovak First Football League. I can't find any significant coverage of this club that meets WP:GNG. My Google searches, even with "site:.sk" next to the club's name, only come up with club's official website and match reports, the former of which is not independent. Corresponding article on Slovak Wikipedia has been tagged for notability issues for years, which certainly may not help copy over English article. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 09:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. The team played on the third tier continuously from 2014 to 2022, and participated in the national cup. That's usually more than enough to merit inclusion. They might not be called "TJ Rovinka" in the coverage, probably just Rovinka. Geschichte (talk) 20:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List of football clubs in Slovakia, where it can be added. That article is in need of an update/clean up anyway... Giant Snowman 18:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep A list of Sportnet articles show the club has been consistently covered in local press in spite of refusing a promotion recently: [29] SportingFlyer T·C 21:07, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of football clubs in Slovakia per above. This is an awful article with almost nothing behind it. Anwegmann (talk) 01:02, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article notability is based on the overall notability of the topic, not the state of the article. SportingFlyer T·C 09:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cottage Hill, Indiana[edit]

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An area on the west side of Brazil, I'm not getting reading on whether it was ever considered a town unto itself. What I can see of it looks like maybe a neighborhood, maybe just a locale.... Right now it's just a phrase on a map and the name of a cemetery. Mangoe (talk) 10:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Current only sources is the GNIS, which has been ruled unreliable/not counted as official legal recognition by WP:NGEO. Likely just a hill. OpenStreetMap puts the label right next to the cemetery, on the outskirts of Brazil, Indiana. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Cottage Hill was one end of an interurban streetcar line to Harmony, Indiana.^[1] that opened in 1893 and probably went out of business in the 1920s or 1930s. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 14:17, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Fisher, Vicky. "When the trains stopped" (PDF). Bell Memorial Public Library.

I tried to get information on this line, without a great deal of success. Everyone talking about it says that the east end was in Harmony; but they they don't all say that the west end was in Cottage Hill. I neve found a source that showed a map of the line. And again, this is a passing reference: stations and stops ae not the same thing as towns. Mangoe (talk) 04:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This is a particularly bad nomination; a simple newspaper search will generate hundreds of articles and mentions. See, for example, just whipping up a random something-something quickly for our purposes here, THIS town coverage from a special correspondent, datelined Cottage Hill, from the South Bend Tribune of June 25, 1908. Carrite (talk) 04:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

THIS from a 1911 issue of the Brazil Daily Times mentions a "Cottage Hill band" giving a box supper at "Cottage Hill school". Carrite (talk) 04:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of these more or less passing references says that Cottage Hill is a town unto itself and not just a neighborhood of Brazil. Mangoe (talk) 04:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Carrite. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mayank Shekhar[edit]

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Article does not meet WP:GNG and WP:JOURNALIST. Subject did receive an award Ramnath Goenka Award for Excellence in Journalism. Source 1 is a book review, source 2 is a blog, source 3 has a passing comment made by the subject himself, source 4 is a review by subject himself, source 5 is a bio written by subject himself, source 6 is more on bio written by subject himself, source 7 is a link to Ramnath Goenka Award and source 8 is a book written by subject himself. Many unreliable and primary sources here. RangersRus (talk) 15:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the award is judged significant enough, he could meet WP:ANYBIO. If his books have received coverage that is judged sufficiently significant (including the review you mention, or https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/name-place-animal-thing-of-bollywood-trivia-popular-culture/articleshow/52685080.cms or https://www.spectralhues.com/news/bookreview-name-place-animal-thing-mayank-shekhar/), he might also meet WP:AUTHOR. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TOI makes it under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. I still do not find his books a significant monument or been a substantial part of a significant exhibition or won wide significant critical attention by well known peers and critics in secondary independent sources. RangersRus (talk) 18:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TOI falling under NEWSORGINDIA is an interpretation that I respect but with which I disagree in this case (not great journalism but not simply unreliable). The fact that the author of the book is one of the film critics of the Hindustan Times also indicates the article in the TOI should be rather independent.-- -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note about the Times of India: The Sources noticeboard says not to use it for political subject matters for example, which the Indian task force clarifies: "Uncontroversial content such as film reviews are usable". Consensus is that concern about retributed coverage exists, but not to the point of making it unreliable. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - clearly notable; a prolific film critic who is also known for his in-depth interviews with major film stars. The Ramnath Goenka Award for Excellence in Journalism is no mean achievement, and he is the first film critic to have received it. I have added a reference for an interview with him for the The Asian Age. At best, the article needs expansion, certainly not deletion. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: Shshshsh (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]

Indeed, I should have mentioned that I hapeen to have been the creator of this page many years back. I actually didn't even remember I was the one who created it, as I've created numerous pages for notable Indian film critics. As someone who has worked on Indian cinema-related articles, I can attest to the relevance of his reviews on dozens of film articles, including several FAs. Him being an author as well as the winner of a notable award only consolidates my position. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, see my reply to nomination above.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Clearly notable.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Supreet Bedi[edit]

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Article refunded after soft deletion, but still fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. The vast majority of sources are tabloid coverage, which doesn't count as WP:SIGCOV under GNG. Other sources include primary sources like the subject's own book or WP:INTERVIEWS, or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails all criteria WP:GNG, WP:BIO and WP:BLP. No WP:SIGCOV. Sources are poor to unreliable WP:NEWSORGINDIA. RangersRus (talk) 18:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Erel Segal[edit]

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Fails WP:JOURNALIST, WP:GNG. No WP:SIGCOV, just dummy articles! Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 11:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - a very well known and prominent journalist. The article has over a dozen sources, and I will shortly add more Kentucky Rain24 (talk) 20:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kentucky Rain24, can you share your WP:THREE please? Journalists are among the hardest to research. gidonb (talk) 13:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

this provides an in depth look at Segal's political views and places them in the context of Israeli right wing media, and indicates notability beyond Israeli media
this is a lengthy, in-depth interview dedicated to Segal, in Israel's highest circulation mainstream newspaper. This alone satisfies WP:SIGCOV.
this provides English language coverage of a notable controversy he was involved with, showing notability beyond Israel (DW is a German broadcaster)

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#2 and #3 are not independent. BuzzFeed isn't very good but the journalist who wrote #1 is. gidonb (talk) 16:28, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Buzzfeed News is rated "green" and reliable on WP:RSNP. Why you'd think that ynet and deutsche welle are not independent of Segal is beyond me. Kentucky Rain24 (talk) 16:42, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that these are interviews, quoted content, and shared sexism in a tv-show. Not independent content or SIGCOV. These media are actually good. Buzzfeed is acceptable because of the author. gidonb (talk) 16:53, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are misreading the defintion of "independent" - ""Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. For example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website are not considered independent."- an interview with Segal is not produced by him but by the paper and journalist interviewing him.

Regardless, while the DW article includes a very short quote from Segal, it is neither an interview nor focused on that quote. Instead, it describes the controversy Segal was involved with, with other 3rd parties commenting about Segal. Kentucky Rain24 (talk) 17:04, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take another look and weigh again how much is independent content about Segal. Not ruling out any conclusion yet. gidonb (talk) 17:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There's coverage that mentions him, such as the DW article, but these aren't about this person. This [30] also mentions him, but just barely as the article talks about his employer. We don't have enough substantial coverage to keep the article Oaktree b (talk) 03:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that "mentions him, but just barely " is a fair assessment of [31] - the article is about an event in which he is the main subject - his employer suspended him for something he did. He is the subject of both the headline and the sub-headline, he is the main topic of the first and second paragraphs ("The Kan public broadcasting corporation on Thursday suspended one of its anchors because he appeared in a video"; "News presenter Erel Segal was suspended, pending further notice, after the video was uploaded to Netanyahu’s Twitter account earlier Thursday."), he is mentioned in the 3rd and 4th paragraphs and is the subject of the 5th, there's a quote from the PM of Israel about him etc... Kentucky Rain24 (talk) 14:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A very well-known journalist in Israel, and there are many sources for this. In addition, he is also a writer (2 books) and a musician. (Full disclosure: I wrote the article). HaOfa (talk) 09:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Stock exchanges of small economies[edit]

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This page is confusion as small economies are not defined and so would make more sense to create an article for each country instead. I don't see how this article can be kept up to date and what should be included, would countries go in and out over time as their economies change? The current content is out of date, which could be fixed, but it comes back to the purpose of this article. I feel the best solution at this stage is to delete it. Sargdub (talk) 07:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete This reads more like a college econ paper, and even if there is something there (and again, this comes across as topic, if it be viable, for the main stock exchange article) WP:TNT seems like the best solution. Mangoe (talk) 10:13, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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keep Article cites 4 research papers and 16 references on the very subject. The article could use some work, but it is obviously an important subject of study in both econ and development. On the criticism that it cannot stay up to date - how is it different than anything on wikipedia? Valuable start to a complex subject. Keep. Spencerk (talk) 12:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to Stock exchange: This can be discussed topic in a broader article, which should be easier to navigate for users anyway. Only one of the papers focuses specifically on stock markets in smaller countries, and none of them appear to be important enough to have inline citations in the article. Even if sourcing is improved, WP: TNT is relevant, and there would need to be a very compelling reason why this is easier to navigate than putting it in the main Stock exchange article. I also think the Keep vote above grossly exaggerates the quality of sourcing in the article. HyperAccelerated (talk) 19:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mama Lion[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBAND. Sources only mentioned in passing. Don't appear to have any charted or had a significant impact. Mdann52 (talk) 11:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Coverage in newspapers. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most of that appears unrelated to the band. Mdann52 (talk) 14:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ATD: Merge or redirect to Lynn Carey, although that article has several issues on its own. Geschichte (talk) 19:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Qiu Shi Science and Technology Prize[edit]

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Article from 2012 tagged for speedy deletion 12 years later as unambiguous advertising (criterion G11). The article does contain some promotional language (e.g. "The Qiu Shi Foundation was named after the famous Qiu Shi Academy" and "Cha was best known for his industrial prowess, building a multinational textile conglomerate.") but this is mostly a stub article on a Chinese research prize where there are some examples of the awards being newsworthy, see e.g. [32]. However, while the awards have made it into some news articles, I am unable to determine the independence or reliability of these sources, and none of them are cited in the current article. The sources I have found are also much more about the person receiving the award than the award itself. While the promotional language is not severe enough for it to warrant a speedy deletion, I am bringing it to AFD and recommending delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Shen, Alice (2018-09-17). "Science prizes put technological innovation at the heart of China's progress. Prestigious Hong Kong science foundation rewards the brightest and the best". South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 2024-06-20. Retrieved 2024-06-20.
  The article notes: "A chemist from mainland China has won a major Hong Kong science prize for his leading global research in the field of bio-inspired nano-materials, highlighting China’s pledge to become an innovation hub in its own right. Jiang Lei received a grant of one million yuan (US$150,000) as winner of the Qiu Shi outstanding scientist award at a ceremony on Saturday night at the University of Science and Technology of China in Hefei, Anhui province. ... The prestigious Qiu Shi annual awards – qiu shi means “quest for truth” – was established by the late Hong Kong industrialist and philanthropist Cha Chi-ming, father of Payson Cha Mou-sing, in 1994 and features Nobel laureate Yang Zhenning on its judging panel. Previous Qiu Shi Award winners include Tu Youyou, who went on to receive the Nobel Prize in medicine for the discovery of artemisinin, saving millions of lives from malaria; Pan Jianwei, who later led the launch of the world’s first quantum satellite; and Zhang Yitang, who proved a theorem that had eluded mathematicians for more than a century. This year, in addition to the main prize, 12 outstanding young scientists were each awarded a US$90,000 grant, over three years, in recognition of their returning to China, with all their scientific potential, after overseas education or employment. ... This year, the number of recipients of the outstanding young scientist prize grew from 10 to 12, in line with the foundation’s aim of luring more talent back to China."
2. "People's Daily article". People's Daily. 2005. Retrieved 2024-06-20 – via Google Books.
  The article notes: "“求是杰出科学家奖”由香港求是科技基金会的设,这一基金会由查济民及其家族于 1994 年捐资 2000 万美元设立表基金会奖项其后每年评选颁发次,致力于奖励科技领域有成就的中国科技人才,努力推动国家科技进步,已累计奖励了包括“两弹元助"和"神舟五号功臣在内的数百位杰出科学家和 35 岁的潘建伟教授在量子信息论和量子基本问题等世界学术前沿领域取得的一系列开创性成果,"
  From Google Translate: "The "Qiushi Outstanding Scientist Award" was established by the Hong Kong Qiushi Science and Technology Foundation, which was established by Cha Jimin and his family in 1994 with a donation of US$20 million. Chinese scientific and technological talents who have made achievements in the field of science and technology have worked hard to promote national scientific and technological progress, and have accumulated awards to hundreds of outstanding scientists including the "Two Bomb Yuanzhu" and "Shenzhou 5 Heroes" and 35-year-old Professor Pan Jianwei for his research in quantum information theory and A series of pioneering achievements in the world's academic frontier fields such as fundamental quantum problems, ..."
3. Li, Lixia 李丽霞 (2019-09-22). Zhang, Yu 张玉 (ed.). "杨振宁获求是终身成就奖系史上第二位该奖得主" [Yang Zhenning wins Qiushi Lifetime Achievement Award, becoming the second winner in history]. The Beijing News (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-06-20. Retrieved 2024-06-20 – via Sina Corporation.
  The article notes: "据悉，香港求是科技基金会1994年由著名爱国实业家査济民先生创立，秉持“雪中送炭”的宗旨，积极坚持和倡导“科学精神，人文情怀”的核心理念。1994至2019年，共有358位在数学、物理、化学、生物医学及工程信息等科技领域中有杰出成就的中国科学家获得基金会奖励。其中“求是终身成就奖”2位，“杰出科学家奖”31位、“杰出青年学者奖”192位、以及 “杰出科技成就集体奖” 133位（涉及16个重大科研项目，如青蒿素、人工合成牛胰岛素、塔里木盆地沙漠治理、铁基超导、神舟飞船等）。"
  From Google Translate: "It is reported that the Hong Kong Qiushi Science and Technology Foundation was founded in 1994 by Mr. Cha Jimin, a famous patriotic industrialist. Adhering to the purpose of "providing timely assistance", it actively adheres to and advocates the core concept of "scientific spirit and humanistic feelings". From 1994 to 2019, a total of 358 Chinese scientists with outstanding achievements in science and technology fields such as mathematics, physics, chemistry, biomedicine and engineering information received awards from the foundation. Among them, there are 2 "Qiushi Lifetime Achievement Awards", 31 "Outstanding Scientist Awards", 192 "Outstanding Young Scholar Awards", and 133 "Outstanding Scientific and Technological Achievement Group Awards" (involving 16 major scientific research projects, such as artemisinin, synthetic bovine insulin, Tarim Basin desert control, iron-based superconductors, Shenzhou spacecraft, etc.)."
4. Zhu, Lixin (2015-09-20). "TCM doctor receives 'grand award' from Qiu Shi foundation". China Daily. Archived from the original on 2024-06-20. Retrieved 2024-06-20.
  The article notes: "An 83-year-old Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor was among recipients of Hong Kong Qiu Shi Science and Technologies Foundation awards on Saturday. ... The Outstanding Scientific Research Team Award went to the Hepatitis E Vaccine team from Xiamen University，which invented the world’s first recombinant Hepatitis E Vaccine and made it available on the market in 2012. Ten other young scientists from seven universities and institutes received the Outstanding Young Scholar Award."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the Qiu Shi Awards (simplified Chinese: 求是奖; traditional Chinese: 求是獎) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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Keep: Cunard did a very thorough search of sources. However, I found the nominator's main concern is that many of the sources are about the award ceremonies and awardees, rather than the award itself. While the South China Morning Post and People's Daily sources provided by Cunard are indeed about the award itself, The Beijing News and China Daily sources seem to fall under what the nominator would consider as non-independent sources. Therefore, I found two additional sources from Guang Ming Daily[33] and Ta Kung Pao[34] which documented the founding of the award, and I believe these should be adequate to address the nominator's concerns. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 15:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep another easy @Cunard sourcing win, truly one of the GOATs of AfD. BrigadierG (talk) 15:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete‎ under CSD:G11. Owen× ☎ 22:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Khan (theoretical futurist)[edit]

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I wanted to WP:DRAFTIFY as this is a rather obvious WP:PAID or WP:COI case. However, I see no chance the subject, even after a radical cleanup of the article, could fulfill notability criteria. Absolutely no coverage in reliable sources, only promotional articles. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPROF Broc (talk) 14:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. It's hard to judge the notability through all the spam advertorials but in any case this would have to be rewritten from scratch to conform to WP:NPOV and WP:NOTPROMO. Also, how could you be a non-theoretical futurist? – Joe (talk) 15:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete obvious WP:G11 is obvious BrigadierG (talk) 15:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG. The article has a promotional purpose and most of the sources are just mentions or press releases.--Ciudatul (talk) 16:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The article seems more like an advertisement, might be better suited for a different platform. Waqar💬 17:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:G11 and the fact that no one who boasts of being a "three-time TEDx speaker" deserves a Wikipedia article. XOR'easter (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Muhammad Ishaq Madni[edit]

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Clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. I cannot find any WP:RS about this subject that could help establish GNG. Also, his YouTube channel barely has 210k subscribers, definitely not notable. Leithiani (talk) 13:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom, also failed WP:GNG. Youknow? (talk) 15:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete , I can see it clearly fails WP:GNG.-Admantine123 (talk) 15:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This article seems to lack reliable sources to establish WP:GNG and covers a topic with minimal WP:SIGCOV. Waqar💬 17:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dennis D'Arcy[edit]

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Fails GNG. An newspapers.com search found no SIGCOV. This Dennis D'Arcy isn't to be confused with the one that died in a car accident in 1963 or the non league footballer for Watton. Dougal18 (talk) 13:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Montrose F.C.#Other notable players where he is mentioned as a 'Hall of Fame' inductee. Giant Snowman 19:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dougal18 and GiantSnowman: The British Newspaper Archive seems to bring up some coverage, e.g. [35] [36] [37]. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:47, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have access, what do the sources say, is it significant enough in your view? Giant Snowman 20:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot to check the BNA. I don't have access so I can't read the sources, just the headlines.Dougal18 (talk) 08:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lithonia (song)[edit]

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Redirect to Bando Stone & the New World was undone, hence the AfD. The song does not fulfill (yet?) WP:NSONG, I propose a Redirect to the album Broc (talk) 12:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support. I originally redirected it for the same reason.— Moriwen (talk) 20:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Oppose. Both the song and album have been receiving a lot of coverage the past two days [(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)(7)(8)(9)(10)(11)], as well as some earlier coverage such as (12). They simply just need to be incorporated into Wikipedia as only three of these sources appear in either article, with both having at max five sources with minimal text. Most record charting groups close their tracking week in a couple days anyways, so it's bound to chart before a full AfD can pass. Koopastar (talk) 05:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Principal Mutual Fund India[edit]

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This company page fails to meet WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH, as most of its citations focus on trivial coverage according to WP:ORGTRIV. TCBT1CSI (talk) 12:10, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Medan-e-Jang[edit]

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Recreated in mainspace after draftification, so I'm bringing this to AfD. No evidence of notability, very few results pop up in an Internet search. Perhaps editors with knowledge of Pakistani sources can help dig deeper. Broc (talk) 11:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails to meet GNG as I couldn't find sig/in-depth coverage. Fwiw, a SPI has been filed against the creator of this article @Saqib lollywood (talk · contribs) who is also trying to impersonate me — Saqib (talk I contribs) 12:00, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I couldn't find much online about the film, and there's no mention of reliable sources. Waqar💬 15:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Pakistani films of 1991: it is listed there; sources exist for verification and the cast is notable. This kind of redirect can imv be said to be standard practice/working consensus for films that are judged not sufficiently notable for a standalone page but have received coverage for verification and/or have notable artists in the cast or crew (when the director has no page yet); it allows further development if sources are found later (ATD). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that this page shouldn’t be deleted because the film is notable and I provided reliable sources from the Pakistani Film Magazine which is an official website that shows every film made in Pakistani history. I would appreciate it if this page stays the way it is and not be deleted. Thank you😊 Saqib lollywood (talk) 18:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would support a Redirect as well as WP:ATD. Broc (talk) 19:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Greg Gunter[edit]

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No evidence of notability from the sources used, nothing else pops up in a WP:BEFORE. Does not fulfill WP:GNG Broc (talk) 11:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I'm not seeing third party SIGCOV.-KH-1 (talk) 13:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. Jmertel23 (talk) 13:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This article seems to be missing reliable sources to establish the subject's importance. I couldn't find any independent coverage online either. Waqar💬 15:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete A major lack of reliable sourcing here. 51.6.193.169 (talk) 23:23, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kade Ferris[edit]

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I believe this article should be deleted because it clearly fails WP:NOTE. OldDiddlyBop (talk) 11:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The cited sources are a bit thin but I wouldn't say it's 'clear' either way. Did you look for sources? The article lists several books authored by the subject, did you look for reviews per WP:NAUTHOR? – Joe (talk) 13:00, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I can't find anything to meet the Wikipedia notability guidelines. I still stand by deleting this article. OldDiddlyBop (talk) 16:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nope this article fails notability guidelines for authors too. It seems this page was made by friends of the article's subject. OldDiddlyBop (talk) 16:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. His books appear to be self-published but that would be ok if there were reliably published reviews of them. I couldn't find any. The sources in the article now include a book review, but of someone else's book and mentioning Ferris only in passing. The only in-depth source that we have is a local-news obituary, appearing to be a family-written obituary rather than a work of independent journalism. That's not enough. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@David Eppstein Kade Ferris is the author. Charles Albert Bender = Chief Bender and is the subject of the biography. There are other reviews of that book too. Anyway I'm leaning keep. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Chief Bender meets notability guidelines for his sports career while Ferris does not meet any Wikipedia notability guidelines. OldDiddlyBop (talk) 00:15, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you telling me that the book Métis and the Medicine Line: Creating a Border and Dividing a People, with the author listed as Michel Hogue on the cover, is really by Kade Ferris? Because that is the book whose review I was referring to. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@David Eppstein Right. I clocked that the first time I read your comment, but the second time I read it, I read it the other way. I can add the other book reviews (of his book) and also quote from at least one other book I found. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. I see that the review in American Indian Children's Literature got removed from the article as a source. I am adding it back. While the site itself could be construed as a blog, the reason this particular blog qualifies as a reliable source per WP:BLOGS, is that it is produced by Debbie Reese, who is an established subject-matter expert, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vasa Denticity[edit]

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability. The closest GNG appearing source is #1 which appears to be a copy of their self-bio. The others are just financial announcements etc. Creater is indeffed for COI promotional editing. North8000 (talk) 15:01, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zuby Nehty[edit]

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Does not meet WP:BAND criteria. The article is also poorly sourced. FromCzech (talk) 08:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sigcov here: Opavsky Denik, Ceska televize, Novinky, Proglas, Lidovky... Clearly keep. Jdcooper (talk) 00:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per sources provided Jdcooper which seem to show notability. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Anima (band)[edit]

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Fails WP:BAND — doesn't appear to have "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself". Popcornfud (talk) 07:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: possibly redirect to lead singer Ceylan Ertem? The band is mentioned in her article, and she seems to be individually notable. I don't think this group itself passes WP:NBAND, having only released one album in their short career. Richard3120 (talk) 15:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Ceylan Ertem: As stated above, it's a short-lived band with little lasting coverage. I support a redirect to Ceylan Ertem but no prejudice to deletion in case the other members turn out to be individually notable, and their bios are created, redirecting to one of the members may be problematic. As this is not the case at this time, redirecting to the lead singer appears to be the most constructive. Aintabli (talk) 09:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ceylan Ertem: I support the redirecting though without any prejudice whatsoever to deletion. Ertem was just the founder and sang only one song/album in the group, but that doesn't mean their is any credible thing to note about this band. The band doesn't meet WP:NBAND but I am quite certain why this shouldn't be straight delete since there was no SIGCOV during the existence and even, the disbanding. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alientrap[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NCORP, a search for sources only turned up primary ones in the form of interviews, and mentions in unreliable outlets. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hyperbeard Games[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP heavily with a lack of significant coverage about the company itself. They only seem known for the fine they paid to the FTC. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:47, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of video games with gyro features[edit]

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Seems like stealth WP:SPAM from a WP:SPA and fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE anyway, as there are too many games with gyro features to reliably list without it being undue effort for editors, including games that use gyro controls for completely trivial things, like emoting in Bloodborne. It is also written like an essay. This is the kind of over-listification we don't need. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I understand how it can seem like stealth WP:SPAM, since gyro is such a poorly documented feature, most sources will inevitably be from Jibb Smart, the (only) person who did the most amount of research about this topic. He is a trusted source who currently works at Epic Games, and he created the gold standard for modern gyro.

I don't understand how it can be WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Explanations, and context were given for every section of the list, it's clear what each thing means, and having Wikipedia as a place for this list would ensure that people will find important information that wasn't extensively documented by the publisher of that game, as well as explaining how gyro works on most games, increasing the knowledge of the reader about this topic.

I agree that too many games use gyro controls for trivial things, I was thinking of a way to exclude such cases, while only including the cases where it was used for Aiming, Steering, Controlling a cursor, and minigames. So games like The Last of Us, where you need to shake the controller to turn the flashlight on, or emoting on Bloodborne would not be included. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 14:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify, but nom should be incredibly careful about throwing around insulting terms like spam to what is, in reality, probably just an enthusiast - WP:AGF! That aside though, I don't think segmenting video games by feature is a good WP:LISTCRIT because it essentially ends up being a list of most video games on any games consoles that have a gyroscope - that's all VR games, pretty much all Wii games, and most Switch games. The sourcing here is also generally inappropriate - presentation slides from a "how-to" talk are primary sources, and lean towards articles violating WP:NOTHOWTO. This is clearly not an article appropriate for mainspace.

I don't think everything in this article should be blown up though, hence my vote. With a better LISTCRIT (perhaps just consoles?) and the removal of the OR, I think this could stand. BrigadierG (talk) 16:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I explicitly omitted VR games in the introduction because their use of gyro features isn't the same as traditional use on normal consoles, and the console's list states that the Wii remote doesn't have a gyro sensor, so only a handful of games on the Wii support gyro because gyro was only introduced later with the Wii Motion Plus accessory. The argument that there would be just too many games to list, and that would be just a "list of most games of certain platforms" shows how little information people have about this feature and what it does, and the importance of this article in the first place.

If the wording of this article leaves space for this kind of confusion, perhaps it would be better to simply change the name and specify in the introduction what is considered a game "with" or "without" gyro features.

If there's a problem with the sources, I can use different ones, but most of them come from the same person (Jibb Smart), with a similar format, because it is the only place and format where this information was compiled and tested.

I also don't understand how it violates the WP:NOTHOWTO because the article doesn't teach anything, it just shares information, the source of that information happens to be from a "how to" presentation. Also, I don't understand how it doesn't make a good WP:LISTCRIT, when a similar list for the Wii Motion Plus accessory exists: List of games that support Wii MotionPlus. This list essentially is "every Wii/WiiU Game that supports gyro features" and it's been up since 2011. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 18:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest changing the subject of this list to "All games with gyro aiming", which would narrow it down to a single widely sought-after feature and fit better into the categories on the list, although the concepts in each section of this list can also be used for other things, like a steering and control a mouse cursor. This would also remove most of the Wii library and clear up any confusion with the title of this page. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 19:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. This list would be massive it was correctly populated with all the Wii and Nintendo Switch games out there. There's mobile games, VG games, etc etc. The scope won't work. Sergecross73 msg me 20:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is anyone reading the actual page or any of my comments? The Wii does not have a gyro sensor. A very limited list of games of that platform would be included on the list, more precisely 54 of 2560 games. This is written in the "Platform" section. The Wii Remote Wiki page also states the same information. In fact, the list that is already there, already includes most of the games that would qualify to be on that list, and that is certainly not every Wii game or every Switch game.
I would understand if the concern was that the explanation given on the article leaves room for this kind of misconception, so a solution would be to simply refine what's already there. But so far, the deletion requests are coming from people who don't know what Gyro is, this is a baseless concern, that is already addressed in the page itself, that only goes to show how people could benefit from the information contained on this article. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see the term gyroscope peppered through the Wii Remote article, so I'm not sure I'm following how that's not a "gyro feature", but regardless, that was a relatively small part of my overall argument that would still stand even if the Wii is somehow not relevant. Sergecross73 msg me 23:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Quick correction: Only Wii Remote Plus or Wii Remote's Motion Plus accessory has gyroscope capabiltiies. Actual usage of gyorscope in Wii titles are rare (obviously) and it's often a requirement for these titles, but on top of my head: Wii Sports Resort and The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword.

if you ask me: this entire "list" should become Gyroscopic control (gaming) while the *real* List of video games with gyro features should only be a list. and I have gave that feedback directly to Ivan in a separate social media site/group thingin. AL2009man (talk) 00:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Wii Remote doesn't have a gyro sensor, uses only an accelerometer and an IR sensor. Gyro was indeed introduced later with the Motion Plus accessory, so the list of games that support this accessory is very limited. So no, not every Wii game uses gyro, Motion Controls (accelerometer) and Motion Controls (Gyroscopes) are 2 different things that lead to different results.

Regardless, as I said above. I understand the concern with the scope of this article, I feel the biggest problem is in the premise being too broad. If this article was called "List of console games with gyro aim", would that help? It would narrow it down to a single widely sought-after feature and fit better into the categories on the list, although the concepts in each section can also be used for other things, like a steering and control a mouse cursor. This would also remove most of the Wii library, low effort mobile games and VR games, thus clearing up any confusion with the title and premise. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 00:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, still multiple issues to address:
This article uses a lot of unreliable/unusable sources. For example, any wikis would fail WP:USERG. That all needs to go.

Every entry needs to be reliably sourced. See WP:VG/S for the sorts of sources that are usable or unusable. Are we really going to be able to do this with this subject?

Lists should meet WP:NLIST. That requires better sourcing too. Are there WP:VG/S approved sources that do this?

I have serious concerns about all of these points, especially since, by your own admission, gyro is such a poorly documented feature. That is absolutelynot a way one would want to describe the subject of their Wikipedia article. Sergecross73 msg me 00:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Usually everything about gyro is documented by the community, because the stigma around this feature is enough for it to not be listed anywhere in any official capacity. I can try to address these issues, but if I can't, I guess I will have to search for another place to do this. Thank you so much for your time and for being the only person to actually reply to anything I asked on this site. I sent multiple messages throughout the process to my "mentor" to make sure if I wasn't falling on these pitfalls, and no one answered. Anyway, Thank you! Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 00:59, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify and move – after figuring out "gyros" isn't referring to Greek cuisine (somehow I totally misread the title at first), I think the prose section could be a good starting point for an article about gyroscopes in video games (after some major cleanup), but the list section is too indiscriminate. For the few games where gyroscopic features are particularly relevant, they could be discussed in prose. So I would support moving to draftspace, but only if the article is overhauled with a different focus and the article title is changed to the general topic instead of a list. AL2009man's suggestion of Gyroscopic control (gaming) would work, as would something like Gyroscopes in video games. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Parliamentary Business[edit]

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This stub is essentially an 'About Us' page for a publication that no longer exists. It appears as though it was intended to advertise the publication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TiredMango (talk • contribs) 05:21, 3 Jul 2024 (UTC)

Note. Randfiskin, the initial creator of the page, was blocked for blatant advertising. —C.Fred (talk) 05:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rebecca Spindler[edit]

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Marked for notability concerns in 2014. Only 2 articles link to this: Bush Heritage Australia and List of people named Rebecca. She has written a fair few articles but don't think she meets WP:PROF or WP:AUTHOR. ‎ LibStar (talk) 04:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and keep improving. Article needs improvement but subject easily meets WP:BASIC and likely WP:GNG. Straight off the bat, Wikipedia Library gives you this 2012 Australian Women's Weekly feature article on Rebecca Spindler and her influence as a zoologist ("catalyst for change" in Australia and abroad). Even if we don't count the sponsored Guardian article recognising Spindler as one of 30 Australians making their mark, she is often cited in the Australian media as an expert on animal-related issues. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eastport, Idaho[edit]

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Just like the Kingsgate article, I propose that we redirect this one into the Eastport–Kingsgate Border Crossing article. There's only a few sources, and I feel that a couple of sentences can fit in the border crossing rather than being placed in an article that feels like a stub with nothing interesting or pleasing to the reader. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 03:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. See historic images here. See this United States government report: https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/master/pnp/habshaer/id/id0100/id0128/data/id0128data.pdf More coverage of Eastport: https://bonnersferryherald.com/search/vertical/news.story/?q=Eastport From Medium.com: https://medium.com/@cheri_28877/canadian-border-crossing-eastport-idaho-69df61947348 Also, https://boundary.idgenweb.org/history/post/eastport-idaho Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Note that WP:MEDIUM is generally considered unreliable. No comment on the other sources. Let'srun (talk) 02:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
merge/expand The issue here is really that now the border crossing has basically co-opted the town. I think the latter makes the most sense as a section within the crossing article rather than as a separate article. Also, I have to point out that the only "good" source here, that is, the only one that has content which could be used as the basis for writing article text, is not likely to cut the mustard as a reliable source, given the lack of authorship info and citations. Mangoe (talk) 04:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thriller (Fall Out Boy song)[edit]

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The article is based on album reviews for Infinity on High. so it doesn't establish a separate WP:SIGCOV. I searched sources independently and I found two, both from NME,[38][39] one written from Patrick Stump's point of view and the other from Pete Wentz's view. Those sources don't say anything different from what is already said by the sources present in the article. And Infinity on High mentions part of the article's content anyway. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 03:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Infinity on High: sources in article only make very brief mentions of the song, and the same goes for the two NME articles the nominator linked. Nowhere near enough for an independent article. I wouldn't oppose a merger if there are any valuable statements included here which aren't already in the album article. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 03:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Meets WP:GNG - The article is comprehensive and there is commentary about the song in multiple reliable sources. Slant Magazine, Northern Valley Suburbanite, Alternative Press, Guitar.com. Additionally the song leads with an introduction from Jay Z which garnered much press like in the Los Angeles Times and other major media outlets.Note, as the article's main author I was not notified of this AfD. Bruxton (talk) 04:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the past I would have said the same. The article itself is not the issue, but the sources are. They are all about the album, so the critics naturally write about the songs featured in the album from that perspective. For example, "I've Got All This Ringing in My Ears and None on My Fingers" is also mentioned by two of the sources you included and some sources included at Infinity on High, but that doesn't mean we should have an article for it. This was practically the conclusion reached at previous AFD discussions like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red Hot Kinda Love, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don't Let Me Down (Leona Lewis song), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/My Hands. A good example of how this is reversed is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bloody Mary (Lady Gaga song), a song that was marignally notable when it was released, but that gained independent notability after an external event created that notability; that is, being used in a TV series and secondary sources discussing it independently from the album. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 05:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge (into Infinity on High) - it has good info, but I agree with the nom. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 06:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I came here from DYK and I am the editor who approved this article's nomination when it ran on the main page. During the approval process many editors, administrators and readers vetted the article. The article clearly meets our general notability guide. A topic is "notable" if there is enough usable coverage of it in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, to write a good encyclopedic article. I think that is what we have here, a good encyclopedic article about the song, based on multiple secondary sources. Lightburst (talk) 01:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Pawelec[edit]

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The article of this Polish businessman, written like WP:PROMO, may fail WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Pawelec has never been elected to any public office nor has he even been a member of any Polish political party. My search do not show anything better than primary sources. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:19, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Likely a flawed translation of the Polish version, which has identical content. Sourcing might be largely in Polish and hard to find. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:04, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wiseday Financial Inc[edit]

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Non-notable company. References are primary sources (press releases). Runmastery (talk) 07:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: References don't appear to be accessible at all: the URLs just link to home pages. The titles do appear to indicate press releases on the most part, coming from Cision, a public relations company.

Article is a bit promotional, but there is one legitimate source I could find, plus some routine coverage of it raising funding

Likely should be deleted, but doesn't have *no* sources. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could be kept if there are any more of those (which is probably false, unfortunately) Mrfoogles (talk) 07:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete SEO junk, and the original editor has all the signs of being a pay-for-player writing up articles in exchange for payment. Nate • (chatter) 16:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Notcoin[edit]

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Procedural nomination per WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 11#Notcoin, as the redirect target of Telegram (software), or any other target, was not found suitable. The page had been moved to draftspace on the day of its creation, as not ready for mainspace, however the creator had rejected the draftification. Jay 💬 06:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Telegram: Significant coverage in BBC Pidgin and likely in the non-English articles as well (which I cannot read). Telegram article is long but could easily accommodate a short section on the game, which seems to have drawn attention. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:26, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete what is this? A game? A crypto-coin? A ponzi scheme? The sources don't say (and are largely about a related game called "Hamster Combat"), which demonstrates that there is insufficiently substantial coverage. Walsh90210 (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I am opposed to a redirect to Telegram (software). If this content were on the Telegram article, I would remove it as WP:UNDUE and inherently somewhat promotional. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:59, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The Persian article has همستر کامبت (Hamster Kombat) as the article subject: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%87%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B1_%DA%A9%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%AA Hamster Kombat and Notcoin seem like they are separate crypto games on Telegram? From machine translation and the images, the sources cited in the English article, like this one, appear to be about Hamster Kombat or crypto games in general, not about Notcoin. For a redirect, Telegram (software) seems an appropriate target. I'll abstain from voting, though, because I can't read most of the coverage on these games. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 02:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to The Open Network (TON). The Persian-language sources seem to be primarily about a hamster-related game of a different name that employs the Notcoin/"Natcoin" token. But I'm not seeing WP:SIGCOV for Notcoin itself, at least not in sources that clear WP:NCRYPTO; however, WP:TRADES sources ([40], [41]) do show evidence that it's a major game/token on TON, so as an AtD that redirect makes sense. Like Walsh90210 I would oppose a redirect to Telegram. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Yet more unimportant cryptotrash. Nate • (chatter) 16:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lybrate[edit]

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Unable to find a news which is not a PR. Funding, launches, and announcements are all they have. Even the creator came only to create the page. Lordofhunter (talk) 04:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom. also look like an advertisement! Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 16:54, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: One source that doesn't look like an ad: this one. So at least one source of significant coverage. The other articles could have been paid for, but might not all be: even if they sound ad-like, they could still be reliable coverage: we don't know. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:41, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Main problem in this AFD is that it is unclear whether the articles are paid or not. If they are not, obviously Keep because it has an enormous amount of coverage, but if (given what the Reliable Sources Noticeboard says about unreported sponsored business content in Indian news) we just use the non-Indian business news sources, I think it likely has to be a Delete because I don't see many of those. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mrfoogles You are again sharing the funding related link from the source whose reliability is questionable as per WP:RSPSS I can't see any research done by a journalist. Lordofhunter (talk) 08:01, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, there is significant coverage of the company that passes WP:GNG. The suggestion that some of the sources are likely to be paid for or sponsored posts without clear evidence of such should not be the reason to delete. Ednabrenze (talk) 06:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, just barely. Despite 38 references, almost all of them would be excluded for WP:NCORP purposes under WP:ORGTRIV, WP:NEWSORGINDIA or WP:TRIVIALMENTION. However, this Forbes India staff-authored print magazine story, this cover story in The Week, and this Financial Express story clear the bar for WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maryam Rostampour and Marziyeh Amirizadeh[edit]

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Opening this deletion discussion per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE on the talk page (here). Would love to hear editors' thoughts going forward. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I think that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is too notable to delete. Maryam Rostampour is arguably notable as well, despite the fact that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is the only one of the two with continuing coverage. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh exists as a draft. Assuming that both women are notable, perhaps Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh could be added to article space after any necessary improvements are made, and this article could be moved to Maryam Rostamour-Keller (her current name), thereby preserving the edit history. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If agreement is that there is enough information to split, I think this is a good idea. Otherwise, I think that Marziyeh Amirizadeh's name be removed from this article per request and this article moved to Maryam Rostamour-Keller per your suggestion. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Split I think it is reasonable to have this specific article deleted. However, I would be open to the thought of having a separate article for Maryam Rostampour if she is notable enough. Marziyeh Amirizadeh on the surface level appears to be a notable figure (I have not done much research into her life though), so I would be more comfortable with having a separate article for her. ❤History Theorist❤ 18:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A person claiming to be one of the subjects of the article requested that it be deleted because they don't want to be associated with the other person? The title is probably inappropriate and would be more appropriate as something else but this does appear to be a notable event. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the editor claiming to be the subject says on the talk page that she paid $300 to have her Wikipedia article written. Is this the current draft, created by an editor who has edited no other topic? PamD 22:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to PK-42 Abbottabad-I as a valid ATD against which a case has not been made (vs. an opinion cast) Star Mississippi 02:05, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmad Nawaz Khan Jadoon[edit]

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Fails NPOL as well GNG. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 12:23, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to PK-42 Abbottabad-I as a valid search term (WP:ATD), and add details there. WP:NPOL is just a rule of thumb to quickly judge if the topic would meet WP:GNG (read the introductory sentence of WP:NBIO: On Wikipedia, notability is a test used by editors to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article. and now read the parent guideline WP:SNG: The subject-specific notability guidelines generally include verifiable criteria about a topic which show that appropriate sourcing likely exists for that topic. Therefore, topics which pass an SNG are presumed to merit an article, though articles which pass an SNG or the GNG may still be deleted or merged into another article, especially if adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found, or if the topic is not suitable for an encyclopedia.). Once notified for AfD, only WP:GNG matters, so please cite WP:GNG while nominating articles. If all we have are statistics of how many votes these crook politicians received then stand-alone articles are not needed. 2400:ADC7:5104:3D00:4CD8:6849:1280:7FB9 (talk) 10:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- 2400:ADC7:5104:3D00:4CD8:6849:1280:7FB9, IP - So are you suggesting that we shoud redirect BLP of every single candidate to their constituency's article? With about 20,000 candidates in the 2024 election alone, I'm sure this is not a good precedent we are setting here. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:41, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  You Are right brother Saqib, we should not go for every candidate, actually this person is General Secretary of one of leading Nationalist Pakhtun Party name Qaumi Watan Party and you know General Secretary is second most important person in an organization after Chairman. That is my point, we should made an article for his details,
  
  Thank you for you support and understanding Tasawar Waris (talk) 07:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Western promenade dance[edit]

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I could find very little coverage about this dance. The article was PRODed in 2022 with the rationale being it is indistinct from square dance, but this is not clear due to the lack of coverage. Was later dePRODed with the suggestion to redirect to square dance or country–western dance. I would slightly prefer deletion but I'm okay with redirecting. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It's discussed in square dance books here [42] in a bit of detail and here [43] in no detail. It really doesn't seem to be used much as a term. I think redirect to Square dance is best considering the article's long life, although even this is a stretch as it seems to be linked only by lists of dances (including one that redirects to this one). Oblivy (talk) 03:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to square dance seems the most appropriate choice given the page history and sourcing discussed above. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian College[edit]

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No significant and independent coverage. Northern Moonlight 01:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Added a citation to improve article. https://thepienews.com/tokyo-based-travel-group-acquires-canadian-college/ Jerclark (talk) 16:04, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A single article about a business acquisition from 2017 (and nothing else) unfortunately isn’t enough coverage. Northern Moonlight 07:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Burr dilemma[edit]

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Not notable enough. The page seems to have only one or two citations to a pair of closely-related papers by the same author, both mostly speculative. Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 01:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe it can be merged with a related article. --Erel Segal (talk) 15:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's Be Enemies[edit]

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This is another in a long string of totally unacceptable edits by User:BigChungusOnVinyl who routinely makes entire articles that fail WP:NOTABLE or just have no reliable sources at all. Note that he has also uploaded the two covers to c: as copyvios. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Everyone Asked About You. Complete notability fail. The two sources included in this article are from the original release's record label and the band's Bandcamp page; both primaries which convey zero notability. The lone reliable coverage I could find is what I included in Never Leave#Background and recording, and that is definitely not enough for a standalone article. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 03:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Irina Nikolaeva[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:59, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There appears to be a professor and a fashion model with this same name that pop up in the search for sources, but I have no idea if those are the same person. I find nothing about a figure skater; this fails notability, Oaktree b (talk) 15:33, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The corresponding article in Russian has some decent coverage of this subject. At the very least, there is enough to meet WP:NBASIC. Let'srun (talk) 20:57, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Sources discussing the subject are found at [[44]], [[45]], [[46]] and [[47]] Let'srun (talk) 17:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing significant in any of those sources. #2 is a fan blog. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:12, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Of the sources linked by Let'srun above, 1 is a profile on the (defunct) website of her skating coach (and thus not independent), 2 and 3 are blogs, and 4 is not WP:SIGCOV. Sources in the article don't qualify toward WP:GNG or WP:NSPORT, and as nominator points out she doesn't meet WP:NSKATE. If more sources are found, please ping me and I'll take another look. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:51, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ulterior Motives (The Lost Album)[edit]

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Zero coverage in reliable sources. Does not meet notability guidelines. Skyshiftertalk 00:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Ulterior Motives (song), as the eponymous song is far more notable right now. Xeroctic (talk) 18:11, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ulterior Motives (song). Most will view the song as the only notable aspect of the album. Free Realist 9 (talk) 01:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There are 7 sources. Kierandude (talk) 12:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Four are primary or from social media, while the "three" Rolling Stone ones (actually two as one of them is repeated) don't even mention the album. Skyshiftertalk 13:10, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep.~~ As of now, there are 9 sources, only 4 of which are social media. Kierandude (talk) 14:45, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changed my mind. Draftify. Give it some time and more sources should be able to be found. Kierandude (talk) 14:48, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You've now !voted three times - you should strike your previous votes. Also please note that iMDb and Reddit do not pass WP:RS, and Amazon only proves that this album exists, not that it's notable. The only reliable sources are the ones from Rolling Stone, and they don't talk about the album. Richard3120 (talk) 17:16, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“Christopher: So what we’re gonna do is release the song, and if people like it and they want to hear more, we’re prepared to release a whole album of tracks that sound a lot like that” Kierandude (talk) 12:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Talking vaguely about a possible future album isn't talking about Ulterior Motives (The Lost Album), and even if it was, it would be just a passing mention. Skyshiftertalk 13:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That quote was from just after EKT had been found, in which Chris talks about possibly releasing an album if a rerelease of EKT was successful. The album he is referring to IS Ulterior Motives. 2405:6E00:28EC:2F23:A91A:50F9:B7ED:AC03 (talk) 14:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One quote from one of the song's writers saying "we are going to make an album" is not an independent source and hardly enough to create an entire article about it. Richard3120 (talk) 02:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It's an unusual album in several ways (containing lost media, recorded decades ago, released ahead of schedule, etc.). More time may be needed. -ProhibitOnions ^(T) 19:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Being "unusual" is not an indicator of notability. I also don't see how "more time" is needed — so far the album has received zero mentions in any reliable sources, and it is unlikely that it will. Either way, if this discussion results in redirect or similar and the album does get notability in the future, the article can be recreated. Skyshiftertalk 22:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Faris Mannekkara[edit]

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Likely to fail WP:NBIO - sourced to PR/puff pieces.
Earlier draft: Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara KH-1 (talk) 00:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Britannica International Encyclopedia[edit]

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No sourcing that I could find besides sales listings and a single sentence mention in an issue of The Booklist from 2008, but there is a language barrier so my Japanese searches may have not been effective. Could probably be merged and mentioned somewhere if there aren't other sources. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:28, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to History of the Encyclopædia Britannica#Global Edition (or create a separate section in that article for non-English editions). Dekimasuよ! 00:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Nevin (diplomat)[edit]

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Fails WP:GNG. Uhooep (talk) 22:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I nominated quite a few of the diplomat articles I previously created for deletion, but I left this one out as there was coverage of his time in Malawi in the Nyasa Times and other Malawian sources. : [48], [49], [50], [51] [52]. May be more available. Unsure if this fails GNG. Heavy Grasshopper (talk) 09:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Fisher, Vicky. "When the trains stopped" (PDF). Bell Memorial Public Library.

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