Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.
Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.
When not to use this page
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves
Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:
- No article exists at the new target title;
- There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
- It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.
If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
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- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
the - If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
- The Houston Spaceport → Houston Spaceport (currently a redirect back to The Houston Spaceport) (move · discuss) – Per WP:DEFINITE. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 16:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Raleigh-Durham TV → Template:Research Triangle TV (move · discuss) – The market covers the entire Research Triangle, not just Raleigh and Durham. 100.7.34.111 (talk) 17:05, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- The name of the DMA according to the FCC/Neilsen, etc. is "Raleigh-Durham (Fayetteville)". I would suggest Template:Raleigh–Durham–Fayetteville TV. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:51, 15 August 2024 (UTC) - Is a rename needed for a template? A lot of our templates, especially navboxes of this type, have short, if sometimes cryptic, names. This one is concise enough. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- The name of the DMA according to the FCC/Neilsen, etc. is "Raleigh-Durham (Fayetteville)". I would suggest Template:Raleigh–Durham–Fayetteville TV. --Ahecht (TALK
- Execution of Alfred Bourgeois → Alfred Bourgeois (currently a redirect back to Execution of Alfred Bourgeois) (move · discuss) – Per Wikipedia:PERPETRATOR and for reasons stated and discussed on the talk page: [1]. Inexpiable (talk) 20:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wilfried Lemke → Willi Lemke (currently a redirect back to Wilfried Lemke) (move · discuss) – Per point one of WP:Title, Willi Lemke is a more common name, as german sources reporting his death more commonly use Willi and parity with German Wikipedia XCBRO172 (talk) 20:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC) XCBRO172 (talk) 20:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Lezmond Charles Mitchell → Lezmond Mitchell (currently a redirect back to Lezmond Charles Mitchell) (move · discuss) – Per Wikipedia:MIDDLENAME vast majority of sources just use the name: Lezmond Mitchell. Inexpiable (talk) 20:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Christopher Andre Vialva → Christopher Vialva (currently a redirect back to Christopher Andre Vialva) (move · discuss) – Per Wikipedia:MIDDLENAME vast majority of sources just use the name: Christopher Vialva. Inexpiable (talk) 20:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Phantom (unmanned aerial vehicle series) → DJI Phantom (currently a redirect back to Phantom (unmanned aerial vehicle series)) (move · discuss) – WP:AIR/NC, WP:NATDIS, and WP:CONSISTENT with other DJI product articles (such as DJI Mavic, DJI Ronin, and DJI Osmo). ZLEA T\C 22:37, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- PF-04457845 → Redafamdastat (move · discuss) – Investigational pharmaceutical drug now has a formal drug name (INN) (source: [2]). 98.191.202.231 (talk) 01:11, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- FM- and TV-mast Helsinki-Espoo → Espoo radio and TV mast (move · discuss) – 86.114.221.166 (talk) 13:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Lars Björn → Lasse Björn (currently a redirect back to Lars Björn) (move · discuss) – Change title as per WP:COMMONNAME, sources are cited in the article. Flibirigit (talk) 14:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Vesto M. Slipher → Vesto Slipher (currently a redirect back to Vesto M. Slipher) (move · discuss) – Page was moved back in 2022 with no justification. Subject is usually referred to as either just Vesto Slipher or in full (Vesto Melvin Slipher), so I'm requesting the move per WP:COMMONNAME. Sgubaldo (talk) 16:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
Contested technical requests
- DOA (mixtape) → DOA (album) (currently a redirect instead to DOA) (move · discuss) – Majority of sources call this an album rather than a mixtape, and the disambiguation should reflect that. Current target's album does not appear to be notable, and can/should be replaced with a hatnote. Current title should be tagged as {{r from incorrect disambiguation}}. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note that D.o.A: The Third and Final Report of Throbbing Gristle may be seen as ambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 02:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @162 etc. I think the punctuation and capitalization is enough for WP:SMALLDIFFS and a hatnote should suffice. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:44, 14 August 2024 (UTC)- Nope, it needs full disambiguation from that. — Amakuru (talk) 07:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @162 etc. I think the punctuation and capitalization is enough for WP:SMALLDIFFS and a hatnote should suffice. --Ahecht (TALK
- Note that D.o.A: The Third and Final Report of Throbbing Gristle may be seen as ambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 02:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Trichosanthes dioica → Potol (currently a redirect back to Trichosanthes dioica) (move · discuss) – This plant is culinarily significant and is known by the name "Potol" in majority of the English language sources. Requesting it's move as per WP:FLORATITLES and WP:UCRN. SriHarsha Bhogi (talk) 13:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Sri Harsha Bhogi The article currently doesn't seem to support Potol as being the primary English-language name. The article only features pointed gourd as an alternative title, and mentions "potol" only as a transliteration of the Bengali word. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:54, 14 August 2024 (UTC)- Any idea why? "Potol" isn't just it's Bengali name. It's used for this species in the publications in multiple languages including English. --SriHarsha Bhogi (talk) 16:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Sri Harsha Bhogi The article currently doesn't seem to support Potol as being the primary English-language name. The article only features pointed gourd as an alternative title, and mentions "potol" only as a transliteration of the Bengali word. --Ahecht (TALK
- Brussels Stock Exchange → Euronext Brussels (currently a redirect back to Brussels Stock Exchange) (move · discuss) – The exchange has been renamed a while ago Tigga (talk) 13:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Tigga There have been two failed move discussions (one in 2018, one in 2022) to move this article to Euronext Brussels, so this is not uncontrovertial. If you wish to open a new discussion, please click on the "discuss" link in your request above. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Tigga There have been two failed move discussions (one in 2018, one in 2022) to move this article to Euronext Brussels, so this is not uncontrovertial. If you wish to open a new discussion, please click on the "discuss" link in your request above. --Ahecht (TALK
- Brothers in Arms (organization) → Brothers and Sisters in Arms (currently a redirect back to Brothers in Arms (organization)) (move · discuss) – name change requested by organization and name in Hebrew is better represented by new title Omer Toledano (talk) 03:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Omert33: What do you mean by "name change requested by organization"? C F A 💬 15:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I approached someone who knows someone there and inquired if a name change is in order to better coincide with the name in Hebrew. They replied in favor of the name change. --Omer Toledano (talk) 15:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Isn't that a conflict of interest that you should disclose? C F A 💬 16:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think so. I simply think that "Brothers and Sisters in Arms" is more reflective of the name in Hebrew. -- Omer Toledano (talk) 18:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Isn't that a conflict of interest that you should disclose? C F A 💬 16:06, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I approached someone who knows someone there and inquired if a name change is in order to better coincide with the name in Hebrew. They replied in favor of the name change. --Omer Toledano (talk) 15:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Omert33 Moved to contested due to WP:COI concerns - COI moves are automatically controversial. IMO, "knowing somebody who knows somebody" is still a connection and makes this a first-party request. (On that note, thanks for your honesty. It's better to have a discussion to ensure the intended title remains in-place) ASUKITE 15:13, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Omert33: What do you mean by "name change requested by organization"? C F A 💬 15:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Administrator needed
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:
- there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.
Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.
Do not create a move request to rename one or more redirects. Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.
Requesting a single page move
To request a single page move, click on the "New section" (or "Add topic") tab of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move|New name|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}
Replace New name
with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 16 August 2024" and sign the post for you.
There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the affected page:
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Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.
WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.
Single page move on a different talk page
Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code:
{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}
The |1=
unnamed parameter is not used. The |current1=
and |new1=
parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.
Requesting multiple page moves
A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).
To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}
For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia
and Wiki
, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia
with current1
set to Wikipedia
and current2
set to Wiki
. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article where the template is placed (Talk:Wikipedia
). Do not sign the request with ~~~~
, since the template does this automatically (so if you sign it yourself there will be two copies of your signature at the end of the request). Do not skip pairs of numbers.
RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of all pages that are included in your request except the one hosting the discussion, to call attention to the move discussion that is in progress and to suggest that all discussion for all of the pages included in the request should take place at that one hosting location.
For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is itself proposed to be moved, it is not necessary to include the |current1=Current title of page 1
for the page hosting the discussion, as its current title can be inferred automatically. Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace, in which case it is necessary to include |current1=
to indicate the first article to be moved.
Request all associated moves explicitly
Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:
If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:
is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.
- Cricket → ?
If a disambiguation page is in the way of a move, the request may be completed as proposing to add (disambiguation).
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{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why}} |
Requested move 16 August 2024
Wikipedia:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 16:54, 16 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}} |
Requested move 16 August 2024
Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 16:54, 16 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why|talk=yes}} |
Requested move 16 August 2024
Wikipedia:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 16:54, 16 August 2024 (UTC) Survey
Discussion
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{{subst:Requested move|new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}} |
Requested move 16 August 2024
– why Example (talk) 16:54, 16 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
{{subst:Requested move|new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}} |
Requested move 16 August 2024
– why Example (talk) 16:54, 16 August 2024 (UTC) |
Commenting on a requested move
All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:
- When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g.
'''Support'''
. - Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding
~~~~
to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets. - The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
- Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI.
When participating, please consider the following:
- Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
- Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
- The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
- Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
- Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
- Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "•
SupportOppose".
Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.
Closing a requested move
Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.
Relisting a requested move
Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.
Relisting should be done using {{subst:RM relist}}
, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).
When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.
Notes
- ^ A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement appears on the list on this page.
- ^ Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.
- This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
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This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 70 discussions have been relisted.
August 16, 2024
- (Discuss) – Sean Combs → P. Diddy – Many major sources refer to Combs as "P. Diddy" or "Diddy", like https://www.complex.com/music/a/backwoodsaltar/50-cent-why-people-silent-diddy https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/magazine/diddy-sean-combs.html and https://www.vibe.com/news/entertainment/50-cent-hip-hops-silence-diddy-party-tapes-accusations-1234905385/ Frankoceanreal (talk) 16:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Kolkata rape and murder incident → 2024 Kolkata rape and murder – Incident was pointlessly added to the title in an undiscussed move. 2A00:23EE:1928:8C3:951B:C401:3A56:519A (talk) 15:17, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Killing of Hae Min Lee → Murder of Hae Min Lee – I'm aware that this has been discussed before, and that the consensus was not to move the page. However, there is an argument for restoring the previous title that was not considered during the previous RM.
WP:CONSISTENT states:To the extent that it is practical, titles should be consistent among articles covering similar topics
. In this case, multiple other pages on similar topics (i.e. cases in which a murder conviction was obtained but overturned and no other perpetrator was brought to justice) use the prefix "Murder of..." rather than "Killing of...". These include Murder of Maxwell Confait, Murder of Wendy Sewell, Murder of Alison Shaughnessy, Murder of Keith Blakelock, Murder of Marie Wilks, and Murder of Linda Cook. Like in these cases, Adnan Syed's conviction has been vacated (albeit this is being reviewed) and nobody else has been found guilty of killing Hae Min Lee, so the title should be changed to be consistent with the other articles. An argument was made by @Tamzin: thatThere is no way to call this the "Murder of Hae Min Lee" without risking the implication that Syed's murder conviction remains valid
, but as it is widely known that his conviction is not in fact valid (indeed, this is likely the reason most people have heard of the case) I don't agree that this is the case. Nobody is going to read the word "murder" in the title and construe it as a proclamation that Adnan Syed is and remains her murderer for all time: the only thing people will take away from it is that she was murdered. TRCRF22 (talk) 14:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Attorney General v X → X Case – The X Case is its common name, similar to the C Case or the Sinn Féin Funds case. See specifically at MOS:LAW related to legal cases, “subjects that have wide coverage outside of legal scholarship”. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 09:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stadionul Carpați → Carpați Stadium (1950) – To not be confused with the new Carpați Stadium (2024). Rhinen (talk) 13:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2022 Nord Stream pipeline sabotage → Nord Stream pipelines sabotage – The previous requested move was procedural closed because the user who requested it was not yet extended confirmed. However, I agree with the reasoning and therefor I am doing the proposal again. There were two pipelines sabotaged, so it should be plural. The year disambiguation is not needed. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of F4 and EF4 tornadoes (1950–1959) → List of F4 tornadoes (1950–1959) – EF scale was not introduced until 2007, unsure if the IF scale has been used to retroactively rate tornadoes from this period but almost every tornado from this period was rated on the F scale. Adding a discussion because I'm currently unsure whether the fact no EF scale tornadoes existed is more or less important than the consistency from year-to-year lists. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sergiy → Serhii – 1.More results, 2.MOS:UKR.--MykolaHK (talk) 13:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Total Express Linhas Aéreas → Total Express – Per WP:COMMONNAME. PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of rail accidents (2020–present) → List of rail accidents from 2020 – etc. I think its more natural, removing the need for disambiguation in brackets. Note that every article in lists of rail accidents by year will be renamed to that format, not just those listed above, hence why I put etc. JuniperChill (talk) 10:13, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zeppola → Zeppole – I strongly dislike this habit of the English language of writing some Italian foods in the plural, but I'm a fair user; see: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=zeppola%2Czeppole&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3. JacktheBrown (talk) 10:12, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Southeastern (train operating company, 2006–2021) → Southeastern (2006–2021 train operating company) – I think its more natural way of disambiguating TOCs by years. It matches Banana (1986 video game), but since it contains two years, I am not sure if its acceptable. What do you guys think? JuniperChill (talk) 10:04, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – TV Osaka → Television Osaka – Official company name VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 08:30, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lady Henry Somerset → Lady Isabella Somerset – As mentioned in the article, this person "won the court case in 1878 and resumed the style of Lady Isabella Somerset", and after 1878 she used "Lady Isabella Somerset" as her official style. Because of this name change, the article title of this person in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography is "Somerset [née Somers-Cocks], Lady Isabella Caroline [Lady Henry Somerset]", and the ODNB calls her "Lady Isabella" in the article. The British Museum also registers her as "Lady Isabella Somerset". There is also an academic article which calls her "Lady Isabella Somerset". According to Wikipedia:Article_titles#Name_changes, "When this [a change of name] occurs, we give extra weight to independent, reliable, English-language sources ("reliable sources" for short) written after the name change". Since this person is called "Lady Isabella Somerset" in recent reliable sources, the name of the article should be "Lady Isabella Somerset". The move was already proposed in 2017, but it was not performed. saebou (talk) 08:04, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 08:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aegukka → National Anthem of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea – After the DPRK's abandonment of unification, the title Aegukka seems to have fallen out of use at least on KCTV (first on the Hwasŏng Area completion event, and now the July 27 "victory" celebration), and Korean: 조선민주주의인민공화국 국가, lit. 'National Anthem of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea' has taken its place. On the other hand, the site of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the DPRK, as well as the current constitution, still mentions that the national anthem is titled "애국가". Another reason of my proposal is due to the current title's possible confusion with the ROK's Aegukga, where currently neither title has a modifier, which may cause confusion to readers not familiar to the two romanization systems. OosakaNoOusama (talk) 22:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 15:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:09, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Air raids on Australia, 1942–1943 → Air raids on Australia – There was only one, see "Air raids on Japan" as format. Gryffindor (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2017 USL Cup Playoffs → 2017 USL Cup playoffs – Like other sports, leagues, tournaments, etc. (most recently see Talk:MLS Cup Playoffs#Requested move 31 July 2024), "playoffs" is generic, not part of the proper name "USL Cup" or "USL Championship". Dicklyon (talk) 04:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- 2018 USL Cup Playoffs → 2018 USL Cup playoffs
- 2019 USL Championship Playoffs → 2019 USL Championship playoffs
- 2020 USL Championship Playoffs → 2020 USL Championship playoffs
- 2021 USL Championship Playoffs → 2021 USL Championship playoffs
- 2022 USL Championship Playoffs → 2022 USL Championship playoffs
- 2023 USL Championship Playoffs → 2023 USL Championship playoffs
- (Discuss) – Jim Ferguson (public servant) → Jim Ferguson (Australian ambassador) – or Jim Ferguson (Australian administrator). The "public servant" designation is vague and rare on Wikipedia (less than 150 articles that I could find), and I'm sure all of the other politicians listed on the James Ferguson disambiguation page would say they were public servants too. — BarrelProof (talk) 04:17, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Joao Ortiz → Joao Ortiz (Chilean footballer) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 04:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Marcelo Suárez → Marcelo Suárez (Uruguayan footballer) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 04:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 08:05, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kick a Goal → Shooting Stars – https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shooting-stars/umc.cmc.5nuhfymikhkppkz4hbjkhutqm 222.108.25.249 (talk) 07:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blue Line (withdrawal line) → Blue Line (Israel-Lebanon border) – This is the de facto border between Israel and Lebanon. The fact that Israel withdrew to that line in 2000 is secondary. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 04:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC) The Mountain of Eden (talk) 04:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Public Data → 2024 National Public Data Breach – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. ѕιη¢єяєℓу ƒяσм, ᗰOᗪ ᑕᖇEᗩTOᖇ 🏡 🗨 📝 03:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Round Here → Round Here (Counting Crows song) – Inbound links and page views suggest there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and all the "Round Here"s should be disambiguated instead. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Forest Fair Village → Forest Fair Mall – Most contemporary sources after the abandonment refer to it as "Forest Fair Mall". Compare Swifton Center, which uses the historical name and not the last one used. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
August 15, 2024
- (Discuss) – Chinese whispers → Telephone game – How about, given the choice between using a racist name popular in the former British Empire, and a non-racist name popular amongst more people in the rest of the world, we choose the non-racist name? It's an embarrassment to Wikipedia that the many prior RMs have centered around WP:ENGVAR--as if racism is a matter of English variation--and WP:RETAIN--as if we should continue to have a racist name because we've always had a racist name. Given the choice of two common, recognizable, natural, precise, concise, and consistent names, let's go with the one that does not imply something negative about Chinese people. Levivich (talk) 23:51, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – When a white horse is not a horse → White horse is not horse – The original text does not have "when" in it. Names for the article in other languages don't include "when". The current title of the article is not the name of the paradox itself, it is the name of a 1995 paper about the paradox. It's called simply “white horse is not horse” by many sources (e.g. Indraccolo 2017), which is a good translation from the original text. Mateussf (talk) 22:47, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ultra-high-temperature processing → Ultra-pasteurization – Common name by a wide margin, per Google Ngrams. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – St V → Saint Verhaegen – I am starting a move request to retitle this article to 'Saint Verhaegen', as suggested above by JhowieNitnek. This is the event's full and common English name, and is preferrable to an abbreviation. This is also consistent with Brussels naming conventions. Jason Lagos (talk) 21:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jenny Craig (entrepreneur) → Jenny Craig (businesswoman) – NPOV (WP:ENTREPRENEUR). — BarrelProof (talk) 21:56, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Keith Dwayne Nelson → Murder of Pamela Butler – Per WP:CRIMINAL and for reasons stated and discussed on the talk page: [3] Inexpiable (talk) 20:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Coronation Street characters (1960) → List of Coronation Street characters introduced in 1960 – This is an abbreviated list, as there are a total of 305 articles at titles like List of Coronation Street characters (1990) and List of Emmerdale characters (2018), all of which are proposed for retitling. The complete list is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television#Lists of series characters by year. These titles are deceptive, as they are not for lists of all characters on the series in those years, but are only lists of characters introduced in those years — a fact reflected in the category tree for these articles, Category:Television characters by year of introduction, containing, e.g., Category:Television characters introduced in 1995. I propose to move all of these to "List of [name of show] characters introduced in [year]" titles. BD2412 T 20:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- List of Days of Our Lives characters (2020s) → List of Days of Our Lives characters introduced in the 2020s
- List of Doctors characters (2000) → List of Doctors characters introduced in 2000
- List of EastEnders characters (1985) → List of EastEnders characters introduced in 1985
- List of Emmerdale Farm characters (1972–1973) → List of Emmerdale Farm characters introduced in 1972–1973
- List of Emmerdale Farm characters (1974) → List of Emmerdale Farm characters introduced in 1974
- List of General Hospital characters (2020s) → List of General Hospital characters introduced in the 2020s
- List of Hollyoaks characters (1995–1996) → List of Hollyoaks characters introduced in 1995–1996
- List of Hollyoaks characters (1997) → List of Hollyoaks characters introduced in 1997
- List of Home and Away characters (1988) → List of Home and Away characters introduced in 1988
- List of Neighbours characters (1985) → List of Neighbours characters introduced in 1985
- List of Shortland Street characters (1992) → List of Shortland Street characters introduced in 1992
- List of The Bold and the Beautiful characters (2010s) → List of The Bold and the Beautiful characters introduced in the 2010s
- List of The Bold and the Beautiful characters (2020s) → List of The Bold and the Beautiful characters introduced in the 2020s
- List of The Young and the Restless characters (1970s) → List of The Young and the Restless characters introduced in the 1970s
- List of The Young and the Restless characters (2000s) → List of The Young and the Restless characters introduced in the 2000s
- List of The Young and the Restless characters (2010) → List of The Young and the Restless characters introduced in 2010
- (Discuss) – Philip Kim → Philip Kim (physicist) – Unlikely that this is primary ahead of Olympic champion Philip Kim (breakdancer). Article has averaged less than 15 daily pageviews this year. 162 etc. (talk) 20:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – African mpox epidemic → 2024 mpox epidemic – The first case has been reported outside of Africa today, in Sweden.[1] Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:04, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sihanoukville (city) → Sihanoukville – WP:Commonname, most commonly refers to the city. The page for the province is now Preah Sihanouk province, indicating this is how the province is most commonly referred to in this way. The disambiguation can be defined easily in a hatnote. Other pages currently in the disambiguation page are Preah Sihanouk municipality (again now called another name rather than Sihanoukville) and Sihanoukville Autonomous Port, which has a low chance of being confused with Sihanoukville. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 14:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sihanoukville → Sihanoukville (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – IDN homograph attack → IDN homoglyph attack – More accurate, recognizable enough. Jruderman (talk) 20:51, 7 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Afro-Puerto Ricans → Afro–Puerto Ricans – Per MOS:PREFIXDASH, when applying a prefix to a multi-word phrase, such as in this case "Puerto Ricans" and "Costa Ricans," an endash should be used instead of a hyphen. Bensci54 (talk) 20:38, 7 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 07:41, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ariane Lipski → Ariane da Silva – name change after marriage. Do I have to request these or can I move the pages as soon as this happens. MMAJunkie / ESPN / MMAFighting posts her under her new name: https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2024/08/ufc-edmonton-dana-white-rose-namajunas-vs-erin-blanchfield-fight-card / https://www.espn.com/mma/fighter/_/id/4227318/ariane-da-silva and https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/4/27/24141303/ariane-lipski-da-silva-karine-silva-ufc-vegas-91-ready-top-division / Official Instagram has new name too: https://www.instagram.com/arianemdasilva/ Marty2Hotty (talk) 06:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SARS-related coronavirus → Betacoronavirus pandemicum – "Betacoronavirus pandemicum" is the official binomial name for the species. Benpiano800 (talk) 03:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Capitanes de Ciudad de México → Mexico City Capitanes – "Mexico City Capitanes" is how the team is listed on the NBA G League website, in its "Teams," "Standings," "Schedule" pages et al. In addition, various articles on the team in the Associated Press, GQ magazine, Dallas Morning News, Slam magazine and Basketball-Reference.com list the team as the "Mexico City Capitanes," which is evidence towards that being its English COMMONNAME. There is a solid precedent in United States and Canadian sports teams using that naming convention for their English team articles; after all, the Montreal Canadiens are not listed as "Canadiens de Montréal," the Montreal Expos are not listed as "Expos de Montréal" and the Quebec Nordiques are not listed as "Nordiques de Québec". In fact, there's a stronger case that "Mexico City Capitanes" is this team's English common name than that Mexico City Arena is their home arena's English common name (many English speakers still refer to it as Arena CDMX or CDMX Arena)-but that's another discussion, and may be started another time. Tom Danson (talk) 02:35, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Florida State Road 836 → Dolphin East-West Expressway – The component highways for the Dolphin East-West Expressway are SR 836 and I-395. 2600:1700:6180:6290:213D:5B2:7FA8:1306 (talk) 01:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Indo-Trinidadian and Tobagonian → Indo-Trinidadians and Tobagonians – The name of the page was incorrectly moved. Sendo79 (talk) 01:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Barbara Kovács → Barbara Oláh – WP:COMMONNAME as she is currently competing under the name Barbara Oláh [4] [5] Joeykai (talk) 00:57, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Charles de Chambrun (1827-1880) → Charles de Chambrun (politician, born 1827) – Wikipedia doesn't ordinarily use lifespans as disambiguators. Looking for a potential primary topic, the diplomat (who was also a writer and member of the Académie française) is the most popular, but not by a huge margin (he gets about 64 percent of the total views of the three topics). — BarrelProof (talk) 00:49, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Oleksiy Omel'chenko → Oleksiy Omelchenko – remove softsign or alternatively moving according to MOS:UKR. MykolaHK (talk) 00:03, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
August 14, 2024
- (Discuss) – Indo-Caribbeans → Indo-Caribbean people – "Caribbeans" is not a correct term to describe people from the Caribbean. They are referred to as "Caribbean people". This is also the case with other articles like Afro-Caribbean people and Caribbean people. Sendo79 (talk) 23:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Serbian SuperLiga → Serbian Super League – The competition's official English name used by the league in its official documents and by UEFA. "SuperLiga" is just a stylized version of its native name and is rarely used in written Serbian. 47.201.233.193 (talk) 21:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LGBT → LGBTQ – Google ngrams has now released their newest dataset to 2022, so the time has come since the last discussion last year in June 2023 which already trended in the direction of LGBTQ, but was held of in light of not having enough clarity if LGBTQ had determinstically overtaken LGBT (with the old ngram data having been only up to 2019, where it was clear LGBTQ was on the path, but not over it yet. Well, we now have the latest Ngram data up to 2022 and shows that indeed this trend was confirmed and LGBTQ has squarely overtaken LGBT and furthermore, LGBT is on a now clear downwards trend since 2017. Google Scholar also supports this in the scholarly field with LGBTQ showing 20,000 results in recent years, versus LGBT a 17,800 results. Raladic (talk) 21:23, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Get Your Shine On (Florida Georgia Line song) → Get Your Shine On – Inbound links and page metrics suggest this is the more popular by far of the two songs named "Get Your Shine On" and almost certainly the only one people are looking for under that title. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:06, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Get Your Shine On → Get Your Shine On (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Tonlé Sap → Tonlé Sap Lake – The original name before renamed after the discussion Talk:Tonlé_Sap#Rename above, due to possible confusion with the river that connect the lake and Mekong. The name "Tonlé Sap Lake" is NOT redundant at all. In that discussion user Markalexander100 stated that "Khmer and English terms aren't quite equivalent. In Khmer, as far as I can tell, there is one name- Tonle Sap- which refers to the lake and river together, while in English we differentiate them." This is not quite right because the official name of the lake in Khmer is "បឹងទន្លេសាប" (Boeng Tonle Sap), where បឹង/boeng means lake. So clearly they still have the word "lake" in the name, to differentiate it from the river. ទន្លេ/Tonle means river and that's its only meaning, not "Tonlé already means lake (or a very large, wide river)" as stated by user Dara above. For example, Mekong is "Tonlé Mekong", Bassac River is "Tonlé Bassac", Kong River is "Tonlé Kong". There's no known translation as Tonlé to "lake". Another similarly named geographic feature is the Boeng Tonle Chhmar (a smaller lake next to the Tonle Sap Lake). So to sum up, if we say "Tonle Sap" (without adding "Boeng") to the Khmer-speaking people, theoretically we are referring to the river (according to the meaning of the words). But then since the lake is too well-known, the term "Tonle Sap" will become ambiguous. However, as a matter of fact, they should be able to tell which one you are referring to, based on the context of the conversation. My suggestion is to rename this article to Tonlé Sap Lake, and have a separate article about the river. Two options for this separate article's name is: #Tonlé Sap (as per its literal meaning in Khmer) or, #Tonlé Sap (river) and Tonlé Sap becomes the disambiguation page. The reason for having a separate article for the river is simply because not everything about the river can be merged into the lake's article. For example, Phnom Penh, the state's capital, is located at the mouth of the river and there's probably something about the river related to Phnom Penh's urban planning that's worth writing about. And merging these into the lake's article would be inappropriate. ទន្លេតូច (talk) 23:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 17:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Global War Party → Global war party – Per MOS:CAPS GnocchiFan (talk) 20:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 17:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Steward Health Care System → Steward Health Care – The website of this hospital network does not use system in its name. And another reason for the change, all of the articles that I have looked at due not use system either. Catfurball (talk) 16:45, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Irish anti-immigration protests (2022–present) → Irish anti-refugee protests (2022–present) – The protests and riots have all been connected by a theme of opposition to various refugees (whether that be asylum seekers, International Protection Applicants etc.) I think therefore a much more accurate title for this article would refer to refugees rather than immigrants. The various parties involved have not expressed opposition or mounted protests against European immigrants from the EU, for example, or against people moving from England. It is solely directed against refugees. Wikiejd2 (talk) 16:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – What's up → What's up? – This phrase is naturally a question, so it should be punctuated as a question. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:25, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Elsa, Princess of Liechtenstein → Elsa von Gutmann – This title seems to be in line with WP:CONSORTS, whereby consorts of sovereigns are often known by their maiden names. Векочел (talk) 12:44, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Harbingers (comics) → Harbingers (Valiant Comics) – There are Harbingers in other comics (see Harbinger (DC Comics) as one example), but this article is only about the Valiant Comics versions. If moved, the current title should redirected to the dab page. Gonnym (talk) 12:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Frittella (doughnut) → Frittelle – Plural form, as they are only ever encountered in groups. Cf. spaghetti. Also eliminates the need for disambiguation. Un assiolo (talk) 09:08, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bird Island, South Georgia → Bird Island (South Georgia) – Consistent form of disambiguation with other islands in the group and per guidelines at WP:PLACEDAB. Turnagra (talk) 23:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 2pou (talk) 23:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 07:16, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kopiko (confectionery) → Kopiko (brand) – The brand doesn't just produce candy, but also coffee themselves. Ahri Boy (talk) 05:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bruce Wayne (DC Extended Universe) → Batman (DC Extended Universe) – I propose renaming these pages because their current titles do not align with Wikipedia's naming conventions. Specifically, the titles used are not the most commonly recognized names for these subjects. Lililolol (talk) 05:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zyn → Zyn (disambiguation) – Clear primary topic (70 000 page views in the past month compared to 300-1000 on other pages). There is no other article with just the title "Zyn" either. C F A 💬 03:05, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Toad worship → Moha – should use pinyin instead of direct translation to avoid ambiguity Coddlebean (talk) 03:01, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Moha → Moha (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – PAW Patrol → Paw Patrol – Per sources and WP:NCCAPS Schierbecker (talk) 02:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chinese character pianpangs → Pianpang – Per WP:CRITERIA of naturalness and concision. No need to disambiguate like with "component" or "radical". Remsense诉 02:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of most-followed Twitter accounts → List of most-followed X accounts – most reliable sources refer to twitter as X. I feel it might as well be changed for integrity purposes at this rate. MarkJames1989 (talk) 16:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024–25 King Cup → 2024–25 King's Cup – To match the parent article and correct a grammatical error. EpicAdventurer (talk) 00:48, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
August 13, 2024
- (Discuss) – José Altuve → Jose Altuve – While Jose is usually spelled with an accent mark, Altuve doesn't use one. This is backed up by every single source used on the article. I can't find a single source that uses an accent mark for his name. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 23:00, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Portrait of the Duke of Wellington → Portrait of the Duke of Wellington (Goya) – Lack of a clear primary topic. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 22:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Toshio Suzuki (producer) → Toshio Suzuki – I believe the producer is the primary topic for this name, as the article about him receives in excess of 15 times the monthly pageviews as the one for the racer. The producer has also been the president of Studio Ghibli and is credited on many of its films, many of which are among the highest-grossing of all time in Japan. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Toshio Suzuki → Toshio Suzuki (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Death of Israa Ghrayeb → Killing of Israa Ghrayeb – Per WP:DEATHS, Ghrayeb's death was a killing. The cited sources also use the same language. मल्ल (talk) 19:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Non è la RAI → Non è la Rai – see this discussion. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 19:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 19:42, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ecolego → AFRY Intelligent Scenario Modelling – The software described in this article has changed its name to AFRY Intelligent Scenario Modelling. Note that I have a conflict of interest because I am an employee of AFRY, which is the developer of the product described in this article I am proposing to move. Boriswe (talk) 16:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 19:10, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Qi (Henan) → Qǐ (state) – Currently this is the only article in Category:Ancient Chinese states that isn't disambiguated by the word "state". Several other reasons for the move request: Qi County, Hebi and Qi County, Kaifeng are both in Henan; the 12th-century puppet state Qi was also based in Henan; and several other polities named Qi also covered parts or the whole of Henan (including the Shandong-based Qi (state)). Not saying that the word "state" is in any way precise (it's obviously not), but it's good to be consistent with other articles in the same category. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 19:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ji (Chinese state) → Ji (state in modern Shandong) – Or Ji (state in modern Beijing and Hebei) to be precise? Open to better suggestions. For the various Han (state)s, we have Han (NW Zhou state), Han (SE Zhou state), and Han (Warring States), but I'm not sure if we can use "Eastern Zhou" (East Zhou, E Zhou) without being more confusing. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 18:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Condorcet paradox → Condorcet cycle – Including "cycle" more clearly identifies the nature of the paradox. The focus of the page is cycles and handling them, rather than the paradoxical nature of their existence. Jruderman (talk) 18:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Signal (messaging app) → Signal (instant messenger) – Signal isn't just an app, it's a whole service. So calling it messaging app is misleading. Instant messenger is a more accurate term. Sucrehypsy (talk) 17:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 18:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Ying (英) → Prince Yīng – We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 18:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Xian (諴) → Prince Xián – We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 18:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Giuseppe Turchi (1840-1895) → Giuseppe Turchi (painter, born 1840) – We don't ordinarily use lifespans as disambiguators for people. — BarrelProof (talk) 17:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – No net loss wetlands policy → No net loss policy in the United States – The page focuses only on the policy in the United States, even though these policies are now found worldwide and not necessarily just for wetlands. I think the page should be renamed 'No net loss policy in the United States' and then a separate page for 'No net loss policy' worldwide could be created because this article lacks a worldwide view. Manxshearwater (talk) 08:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Canadian (disambiguation) → Canadian – It's safe to say that Canadian doesn't have a primary topic, just like almost every other nationalities (American, Australian, British, Brazilian, Mexican, etc per WP:CONSISTENT) because it can also refer to the something from Canada, its citizens, and either the English/French variety of that language. In fact, Australian (disambiguation) was only recently moved to Australian back in October 2022. JuniperChill (talk) 16:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LGBT representations in hip hop music → LGBT representation in hip hop music – The singular form makes more sense in the title. See similar article titles such as LGBT representation in children's television, LGBT representation in South Korean film and television, and LGBT representation in The Simpsons. मल्ल (talk) 15:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Korean Academy Award winners and nominees → List of South Korean Academy Award winners and nominees – Move from Korean to South Korean to fit in like the Oscar submission did. GeniusTaker (talk) 15:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Abortion-rights movements → Abortion rights movements – Per WP:COMMONNAME. No other rights movement uses the hyphenated version of the title (e.g. civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, etc.) on Wikipedia. Google Books shows "abortion rights" and "abortion rights movement" are at least 10x more common than their counterparts, and a quick Google Scholar and Pubmed search shows almost unanimous use of "abortion rights" without the hyphen. PassedDown (talk | contribs) 14:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – MLS is Back Tournament → MLS is Back tournament – The brand name is "MLS is Back"; as the article says, they applied it to their Covid-comeback tournament (quote: The name "MLS is Back" was reused from a marketing slogan used prior to the season.). Book sources appear to use majority lowercase "tournament". Per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS we should not be dressing these up like a proper names unless sources consistently do so. Dicklyon (talk) 14:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Deadlock → Deadlock (computer science) – It's odd that a computer science term is primary when the original meaning of the word, dead bolt (aka deadlock) is not. Seems like an example of systemic bias given many Wiki editors are comp-sci people, but it has to be changed to reflect common usage. I think the best compromise is to establish that there is no actual primary topic for the term, as it can have many meanings outside of comp-sci, such as a hung jury. (Also, the recent spike in views is people looking for the new video game, which doesn't have an article yet, but that is what made me scratch my head about why exactly this page is here). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Artms → ARTMS – Per MOS:TMRULES,
When a name is almost never written except in a particular stylized form, use that form on Wikipedia.
As well, under MOS:BIOEXCEPT and MOS:IDENTITY, living subjects of articles are entitled to exceptional stylization if groups clearly and consistently use an exceptional style, and an overwhelming majority of sources use the same exceptional style. When read in the context of WP:BLP, Wikipedia is probably necessarily compelled to use the exceptional style in such situations. A Google News search [6] does not yield any results which do not stylize the group as ARTMS. Included in the articles which populate in the search results for me are NME, allkpop, Billboard, Hindustan Times, Korea JoongAng Daily, ABS-CBN News, Pop Matters. Outside of Google News, sites like Sputnik Music which reviewed their debut album earlier this year all took care to stylize the group's name as ARTMS. The Korean language edition of Wikipedia titles the respective article as ARTMS, as does the Japanese language edition. While I invite editors to debate the reliability of these sources or discuss points of difference in policy (so as to set a robust precedent), I also invite them to find any reliable sources which do not use the exceptional stylization. Officially, their primary website could be argued as ambiguous since we only have the all caps logo to go off of, but their official fansite consistently stylizes the name of the group as ARTMS. Their social media is consistent with the ARTMS stylization on Youtube, TikTok, Instagram, X, and their official Discord server. Marketplaces including Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Apple Music, and streaming services such as Spotify all observe the ARTMS stylization. The only exception I was successful in finding was Tidal, but it's not clear to me if this is because there is another musical act by the same name but opposite stylization (it doesn't appear to be WP:NOTABLE or in possible contention as the WP:PTOPIC in the future, but this could help disambiguate down the line). Wikipedia is not beholden to fans on SNS or fan wikis, but they can help give some indication of the WP:COMMONNAME; users on reddit and X appear to overwhelmingly observe the ARTMS stylization, as do users on any number of fan wikis I found; [7], [8], [9]. 122141510 (talk) 23:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 12:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport → Mumbai Airport – The current title is an extremely long and and uncommon title violating WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISION and WP:NATURALNESS. Wikipedia requires that the official name should not be used unless it fulfills the criterion at WP:Article titles. If we were to see the usage in news media, "Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International Airport" gives only 300 hits, "Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport" also gives only 300 hits, while "Mumbai International Airport" gives 10,100 hits and "Mumbai Airport" gives 21,100 hits which is way more than the current name and easily makes it the common name of the subject. Besides the current name doesn't even show up in ngrams because of its extremely low usage in published sources. "Mumbai Airport" is much more natural and recognisable, and readers are much more likely to search for it. Mumbai International Airport is good enough too. PadFoot (talk) 10:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israel–Hamas war → Israel–Gaza war – Despite the move request to Israel-Gaza war being closed as no consensus in February 2024, a lot has changed since then and RS have converged to use this name. This move is long overdue and aligns with the relevant Wikipedia guidelines of WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMECHANGE. RS per WP that uses the Israel-Gaza war name as the title of their coverage category: * The Guardian:
Israel-Gaza war
* The Washington Post:Israel-Gaza war
* BBC:Israel-Gaza war
* NPR:Israel-Gaza war
* The Conservation:Israel-Gaza war
* Al Jazeera:Israel's war on Gaza
Other RS that uses the Israel-Gaza war name as the title of their coverage category: * Doctors Without Borders:Israel-Gaza war
* Committee to Protect Journalists:Israel-Gaza conflict
* The National:Israel-Gaza war
* Middle East Eye:Israel's war on Gaza
RS per WP that uses the Israel-Gaza war in their coverage: * Reuters: [10], [11], [12]:Israel-Gaza war
* CBS news: [13]Israel-Gaza war
* Vox: [14], [15]:Israel's war in Gaza
This name change would also align with a third Wikipedia guideline, all five of the WP:CRITERIA one, namely #5 on Consistency, as this would align with Gaza War (2008–2009) and 2014 Gaza war. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Julián Álvarez → Julián Alvarez – His name is Julián Alvarez.[16]https://as.com/futbol/primera/por-que-julian-alvarez-no-lleva-tilde-en-su-apellido-n Akasakamoto (talk) 09:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2MASS J10475385+2124234 → 2MASS J1047+21 – Make shorter (WP:PRECISE, WP:CONCISE). A number of digits far higher than necessary. New title is more natural, more recognizable, less precise, but much more concise. Almost perfectly meeting WP:CRITERIA. 21 Andromedae (talk) 19:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vladimir Putin's December 2021 ultimatum → 2021 Russian ultimatum – The title shouldn't have Putin's name in it, no more than Soviet ultimatum to Lithuania should be "Joseph Stalin's ultimatum" or 1939 German ultimatum to Poland should be "Adolf Hitler's ultimatum". These proposals were advanced on behalf of Russia, not Putin as an individual. "December" is not necessary since no other major ultimata were issued by Russia in 2021. As for possible suffixes, "to the West" is too informal, "to the United States and NATO" is too wordy, and "on Ukraine" is perhaps too presumptuous, despite the troop situation and the singling out of Ukraine in the draft treaties. — Goszei (talk) 08:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – William A. Sickner → William Sickner – In a handful of film credits, subject was indeed billed as "William A.", but in the great majority of those, his billing was simply "William", as confirmed by his entry in The American Film Institute Catalog. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 08:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ruth Lange → Ruth Lange (canoeist) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Joeykai (talk) 05:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Yi (Chinese surname) → Yì (surname) – Yī (surname) is also a Chinese surname. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 05:22, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ji (surname 蓟) → Ji (surname 薊) – We should use traditional Chinese since the only notable guy with this surname was from 1800+ years ago Yinweiaiqing (talk) 05:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Xu (surname 徐) → Xú (surname) – We don't need so many articles with Chinese disambiguators. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 03:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kelvin Tan (musician) → ? – Kelvin Tan is also a musician, so this disambiguation doesn't work. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Long (surname 龍) → Long (Chinese surname) – We don't need to use Chinese disambiguators unless necessary. The text says "Another name transcribed as Long is 隆, which is very rare in contemporary China." Yinweiaiqing (talk) 02:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Improved Military Rifle → Improved military rifle powder – Per previous discussions on this talk page, recognize the topic of the development of improved propellants as initiated by du Pont but not limited to their product names. Dicklyon (talk) 02:23, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Black Tortoise → Black Turtle-Snake – The Chinese name literally translates to "dark/mysterious military" (no tortoise). It is usually depicted as a turtle (not necessarily a tortoise) intertwined with a snake. The proposed title has been used by many academic publications: "black turtle snake" - Google Scholar "black turtle snake" - Google Books ("Black Snake-Turtle" returns fewer hits.) Yinweiaiqing (talk) 01:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Reed Richards → Mister Fantastic – "Mister Fantastic" was the original name of the article and where the article was located for about 18 years until the above requested move in 2021 which had minimal participation (2 users supporting, 1 user opposing) and should have been either extended or closed as "no consensus" instead of being closed as "consensus to move". Having this article at "Reed Richards" is inconsistent: * inconsistent with his teammates: Invisible Woman, not "Susan Storm"; Human Torch, not "Johnny Storm"; Thing is currently at "Ben Grimm", but that was only moved there together with that aforementioned 2021 move which again, should have been closed as no consensus * inconsistent with his enemies: Doctor Doom, not "Victor von Doom"; Mole Man, not "Harvey Rupert Elder"; Puppet Master (Marvel Comics), not "Phillip Masters"; Galactus, not "Galan" * inconsistent with his colleagues, most Marvel superheroes: Iron Man, not "Tony Stark"; Captain America, not "Steve Rogers"; Spider-Man, not "Peter Parker"; Doctor Strange, not "Stephen Strange" * inconsistent with most superhero articles, even those outside Marvel: Superman, not "Clark Kent"; Batman, not "Bruce Wayne"; Wonder Woman, not "Diana Prince"; Spawn (character), not "Al Simmons" Wikipedia:Naming conventions (comics) says to use the common name: * Google currently returns 2,800,000 hits for
"Mister Fantastic" OR "Mr. Fantastic"
and 2,280,000 hits for"Reed Richards"
(which would also include some hits from real-life people named Reed Richards, not just the comic book character), so Mister Fantastic is the common name. * Collectibles and merchandise almost invariably use "Mister Fantastic" rather than "Reed Richards"; just do a search for Mister Fantastic or Reed Richards toys on Amazon or Google, and you will see they are virtually always labeled "Mister Fantastic" on the box, not "Reed Richards". Naming conventions (comics) allows an exception if a character has multiple well-known codenames like Dick Grayson (who has been Robin, Nightwing, and even Batman at different points in his history), but Reed Richards is not known by any other common codename than Mister Fantastic. In summary, consistency, common name, and Wikipedia naming conventions all support "Mister Fantastic", not "Reed Richards". —Lowellian (reply) 01:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Charles Carroll (1865-1921) → Charles Carroll (philanthropist, born 1865) – We don't ordinarily use lifespan ranges as disambiguators for people, but I'm unsure what phrase is best. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
August 12, 2024
- (Discuss) – Generalissimus of the Soviet Union → Generalissimo of the Soviet Union – Per WP:ENGLISH and WP:COMMONNAME. Google Search returns 11,500 results for "Generalissimo of the Soviet Union" vs. 91 for "Generalissimus of the Soviet Union". Google Books returns 1,320 vs. 311 for the same searches, and Google Scholar returns 47 vs. 10. — Goszei (talk) 23:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ermou Street (Athens) → Ermou Street – Unnecessary disambiguation. Killuminator (talk) 17:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:15, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jewish ethnic divisions → Jewish subcultures – The current title implies that the listed divisions of Jews, such as the Ashkenazim and Sephardim, are distinct ethnic divisions or ethnicities unto themselves. This contradicts the way a majority of Jews self-identify, which is as one ethnoreligious group containing several diverse but largely aligned subcultures. Gaymarsrovers (talk) 22:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wiener Derby → Vienna derby – per MOS:AT, WP:TRANSLITERATE, and WP:COMMONNAME. Vienna is the most commonly-used name for the city and the word "derby" is a common noun. The vast majority of articles about football rivalries (from outside English-speaking countries) also use English titles. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 21:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jasper wildfire → 2024 Jasper wildfire – * Jasper Fire → 2000 Jasper wildfire Perhaps moving the article to that name or 2024 Jasper wildfires (note the s at the end), many people would probably search Jasper Fire and be brought to the other unrelated article. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 18:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Children's Hospital & Medical Center → Children's Nebraska – the name of the company has officially changed per their website swinquest (talk) 21:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wrecking Ball (Miley Cyrus song) → ? – This article is a likely WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the basename Wrecking Ball (distinguished from Wrecking ball per WP:DIFFCAPS) per pageviews. If the Miley Cyrus song for some reason does not qualify as primary, it should instead be moved to the WP:PDAB title Wrecking Ball (song), as it has a ~17:1 combined pageview ratio with the Bruce Springsteen song and the Neil Young song (the only other "Wrecking Ball" songs with an article). JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 13:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC) (edited 18:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC))
- (Discuss) – Mohammed Waheed Hassan → Mohamed Waheed Hassan – His original name is Mohamed Waheed Hassan. Per https://presidency.gov.mv/PO/FormerPresident/3, double M is not there in Mohamed. In his Identity card and passport, per parliament old website, the Name is Mohamed Waheed Hassan and Full Name as Mohamed Waheed Hassan Manik. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 17:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – EveryoneOn → Everyone On – requesting to move this page as the EveryoneOn organization has changed/updated its name to "Everyone On" as of June 2024. Everyoneonwiki (talk) 17:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestinian territories → Occupied Palestinian Territory – This terminology has become standard across all official sources, the United Nations, itself and in its resolutions, and at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), in 2004 and reaffirmed in 2024, the EU and in many secondary sources. The ICJ concluded that the West Bank and Gaza are a single territorial unit: However, the Court recalls that, from a legal standpoint, the Occupied Palestinian Territory constitutes a single territorial unit, the unity, contiguity and integrity of which is to be preserved and respected. Thus, all references in this Opinion to the Occupied Palestinian Territory are references to this single territorial unit. Although still used in sources, and should remain as an aka, the existing title is currently an anachronism. Note that the OPT is also equivalent geographically to the area claimed by the State of Palestine. Selfstudier (talk) 10:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 16:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Coordination Office for the Preservation of the Written Cultural Heritage → Coordination Office for the Preservation of Written Cultural Heritage – the correct English translation of the German name has no additional "the" Originalerhalt (talk) 15:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wyatt (disambiguation) → Wyatt – This is a misplaced disambiguation page. In 2016 the page "Wyatt" was split into a surname and a given name page, and moved to Wyatt (surname) with comment "Split given name and surname, and seems more appropriate to call this page 'surname' now", leaving "Wyatt" as a redirect to it, and leaving this long-established dab page at its disambiguated title. There are enough placenames and other uses that there seems no obvious primary topic, so this dab page should be at the base title. PamD 09:28, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Luddite → Luddism – For consistency with other Wikipedia articles, naming the movement rather than a term for adherents. Jruderman (talk) 13:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Wikipedia Unreferenced articles improved → Template:WikiProject Unreferenced articles – Per consensus @ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Unreferenced articles#Template:Wikipedia Unreferenced articles improved. @Gonnym and Randy Kryn: pinging previous RM participants. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 13:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Special interest (autism) → Special interest – The autistic topic is the primary one over the special interest group. It does not make sense to make special interest redirect there. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dark Phoenix (film) → X-Men: Dark Phoenix – The article itself states that the film was better known as X-Men: Dark Phoenix through international marketing, its on-screen title, and international home media releases; it was only known as just Dark Phoenix for U.S. (and Canadian?) marketing. Propose move based on WP:COMMONNAME. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 10:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mischievous Twins: The Tales of St. Clare's → The Twins at St. Clare's (anime) – English title, per TMS' global website. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 00:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 09:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Voepass Linhas Aéreas → Voepass – Per WP:COMMONNAME PhotographyEdits (talk) 09:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Makar → Makar (poet) – I'm not able to find any indication that the Scottish term for a poet is the primary topic over everything else on the dab page. Google Scholar, books etc. only give results for people with the name. There is also a sizable Nepalese town by this name. (t · c) buidhe 07:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Suspicious deaths of notable Russians (2022–2024) → Suspicious deaths of notable Russians in 2022–2024 – It is a weird style choice to use parenthesis here, which are usually used for disambiguation. PhotographyEdits (talk) 08:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ernie Johnson Jr. → Ernie Johnson (sportscaster) – Revert undiscussed move. No evidence that he is commonly known as "Ernie Johnson Jr." 162 etc. (talk) 00:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 07:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gangwon Province (Korea) → Gangwon Province, Korea – The parentheses imply a disambiguation, but there's no other country in the world with a Gangwon Province. This new title matches the formatting of the descendent split provinces of Gangwon Province, South Korea and Kangwon Province, North Korea. Note that Gangwon Province existed during the Joseon and Korean Empire periods, so Gangwon Province, Joseon wouldn't/shouldn't work. seefooddiet (talk) 05:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Megaworld Corporation → Megaworld – Common name. See MOS:TM. Ahri Boy (talk) 15:59, 4 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:42, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Abdullah al-Derazi and Youssef al-Manasif → Arrest of Abdullah al-Derazi and Youssef al-Manasif – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. GnocchiFan (talk) 15:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kalinago genocide → Kalinago genocide of 1626 – The current title fails WP:PRECISION. Multiple RS assert that the Kalinago were subjected to a much wider campaign of genocide throughout the 1600s and all across the Caribbean. See inter alia Honychurch's article The Kalinago Fight for Oüaladli and Oüahómoni, as well as Buser's "Colonial Injustices and the Law of State Responsibility" (in article). TRCRF22 (talk) 13:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company → VGTRK – Concise title and WP:COMMONNAME. 5.32.37.218 (talk) 08:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Caritas Institute of Higher Education → Saint Francis University (Hong Kong) – The institute had acquired university title and renamed "Saint Francis University" under approval from the Hong Kong government on 9 January 2024 (more than 7 months ago). The institute uses the new name across its website and communication materials. Media, including South China Morning Post (1, 2) and The Standard, adopted the new name in their articles. The Hong Kong government Security Bureau also uses the new name. Cfls (talk) 07:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Marcus Berg (1714-1761) → Marcus Berg (writer) – Better disambiguator, per WP:NCPDAB. Note that disambiguation is only required from a single Marcus Berg; see Special:PrefixIndex/Marcus Berg. jlwoodwa (talk) 07:00, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of air rage incidents → List of aggressive incidents on airplanes – While some sources use the "air rage" phrasing, I think a more neutral title makes sense here. This article seems to be more broadly about incidents (usually aggressive incidents but not always described as "air rage") on airplanes. An example of a list named like this would be List of incidents at Walt Disney World. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Akan people → Akan peoples – When a group of peoples and the languages they speak have the same name, it is convention to use "name peoples" and "name languages". Here are a few of many examples: # "Germanic peoples" and "Germanic languages" # "Austronesian peoples" and "Austronesian languages" # "Mongolic peoples" and "Mongolic languages" # "Sámi peoples" and "Sámi languages" Move per WP:CONSISTENT. PK2 (talk; contributions) 04:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Etisalat by e& → e& – It seems like most sources refer to the company as e&, and that's what they seem to call themselves as well. Sources: Hollywood Reporter, Reuters, Fast Company, Bloomberg, etc. Alternatively, I would also support a move to Etisalat, if that's preferable formatting, because I think there is evidence that many sources use that as well (the companies former name): Light Reading, Developing Telecomes (maybe not independent), Tech in Africa, WSJ (2015 reference), NYT (2012), Computer Weekly, etc. Regardless of the option, the current title does not seem widely used or like the primary search keyword that would be used. It should be noted that we already use the "e&" formatting in other articles, see E& Egypt. Bestagon ⬡ 02:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – DeAnna Price → Deanna Price – WP:COMMONNAME per [17] [18] [19] Joeykai (talk) 02:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Viva Las Vegas (dancer) → Liv Osthus – For a while now, she's been referenced more often by her real name than by her stage name. Most people know her through her writing and activism (and now her run for public office) than for her stripping. Of course, everybody knows that she's a stripper, but that's not why they know about her. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 00:25, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
August 11, 2024
- (Discuss) – Battle of Shuja'iyya (2024) → Second Battle of Shuja'iyya – This is the 2nd Battle in Shuja'iyya during this war and thus ought to be called as such. The previous post called it 2nd Battle of Shuja'iyya (2024) which @Elli objected to as it implies there were multiple second battles of shuja'iyya, so it would be good if we avoid adding a year to the name. Genabab (talk) 23:01, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Politicization of Middle Eastern food → Israeli appropriation of Arab cuisine – The entire topic of the article and all the sources are specifically about the Israeli appropriation of Arab cuisine. It is not about the general appropriation or politicization of food about other countries in the Middle East. It is not about Iran appropriating Jordanian food, or Oman appropriating Iraqi food, or Lebanon appropriating Algerian food. This article and its sources are solely and exclusively about the Israeli appropriation of Arab cuisine, so that's what the title should be Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 20:22, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Russian invasion of Ukraine → Timeline of the Russo-Ukrainian War (2022–present) – Comparing the way Wikipedia currently covers the war compared to reliable sources such as Encyclopedia Britannica, War on the Rocks, and Harvard, the reporting on the war by Wikipedia is quite different. Sources generally agree that the Russo-Ukrainian War started in 2014 but its main phase/escalation has been ongoing since 2022. Reliable sources generally do not use "Russian invasion of Ukraine" as the primary term for the war in its post-2022 phase: "Russo-Ukrainian War", or variants of that like "Ukraine-Russia war" (Sky News), "Ukraine war" (BBC News), are overwhelmingly the main term used. Encyclopedia Britannia has "Russian invasion of Ukraine" as a subsection of the article referring to the period from initial invasion up to around the Battle of Kyiv but uses different sections for events since then; importantly, very few reliable sources use the phrase "Russian invasion of Ukraine" for any recent events so it is simply misleading to use that title to for the catch-all sub-article about all of the events of the Russo-Ukrainian War since 2022. For this reason, I think it's necessary to move this article (Russian invasion of Ukraine) to be clear that its scope is to serve as a sub-article of Russo-Ukrainian War to describe the events since 2022 in greater detail- and following a move, there would also be a good argument for restructuring this article, moving some content to the main Russo-Ukrainian War article and other articles. The necessity of a move has become especially clear with the recent Ukrainian invasion of Russia which is clearly a part of the war but not part of the "Russian invasion of Ukraine", but there are also other events in the war which don't fall under the "Russian invasion of Ukraine" umbrella (e.g. the counteroffensive in Kherson, the Kerch Bridge bombing, etc), so overall as this article has grown over time and events have occurred, the present title has become steadily less accurate even aside from its lack of use by reliable sources. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 18:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Aerial warfare in the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Aerial warfare in the Russo-Ukrainian War
- Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Attacks on civilians in the Russo-Ukrainian War
- Naval warfare in the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Naval warfare in the Russo-Ukrainian War
- Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Nuclear risk during the Russo-Ukrainian War
- Foreign involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Foreign involvement in the Russo-Ukrainian War
- List of deaths during the Russian invasion of Ukraine → List of deaths during the Russo-Ukrainian War
- Prisoners of war in the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Prisoners of war in the Russo-Ukrainian War
- War crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine → War crimes in the Russo-Ukrainian War
- Humanitarian impacts of the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Humanitarian impacts of the Russo-Ukrainian War
- Peace negotiations in the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Peace negotiations in the Russo-Ukrainian War
- (Discuss) – Ultimate (sport) → Ultimate Frisbee – On the basis of WP:NATDAB + WP:COMMONNAME. "Ultimate Frisbee" may be less official, but it's much more recognizable, making for a better article title. The sport can be called just "Ultimate" beyond the first paragraph, following common Wikipedia practice. Jruderman (talk) 18:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hudson Park and Boulevard → Hudson Boulevard – "Hudson Park and Boulevard" is too long of a name for an article. The entire street is called Hudson Boulevard, regardless if it is west or east, and the park has a different official name, Bella Abzug Park. Regardless of the park, the whole street is called "Hudson Boulevard". JE98 (talk) 18:19, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Olympic Park, Montreal → Olympic Park (Montreal) – Parentheses are used for North American places. 162 etc. (talk) 16:49, 3 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Northern Ireland Social and Political Archive → ARK (Northern Ireland social policy hub) – This article isn't at the right title: "Northern Ireland Social and Political Archive" isn't even mentioned. Open to better suggestions (although ARK (website) may be ambiguous). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:38, 3 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:04, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Family tree of Chinese monarchs (ancient) → Family tree of Chinese monarchs (before 256 BCE) – Likewise: * (early) → (221 BCE – 453 CE) * (middle) → (453–1279) * (late) → (1279–1912) I know each of these boundaries are problematic (Genghis Khan is included in "late" for example, but frankly the core of it is correct and it would help guide readers much better than "early", "middle", and "late". The current Remsense诉 09:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:01, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Antihypertensive drug → Antihypertensive – Make shorter (WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE), in line with other drug classes like diuretics, analgesics, and antibiotics. –Tobias (talk) 13:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Psychedelic drug → Psychedelic – Make shorter (WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE), in line with other drug classes like antidepressants, antipsychotics, and antibiotics. –Tobias (talk) 12:58, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Armand Duplantis → Mondo Duplantis – He uses his nickname instead of his full name on all the major social media sites and Mondo Duplantis seems very common in news coverage as well. The combination of these two factors prompted me to start a discussion on how to name the article. Killuminator (talk) 12:49, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis → Jackie Kennedy – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Her sister's name is common name as are those of every 20th-century U.S. first lady. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine → National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine – Even though the official website states otherwise, I would recommend moving this page to a title aligning with British spelling conventions, since we are discussing an institution in a European country where British English is most common and other institutions, like the Ministry of Defence (Ukraine), follow the same pattern. I believe the people responsible for the translation of Ukrainian to English may not be fully aware of the differences between the two varieties, as they frequently confuse them. Several governmental websites use British spelling, while others use American spelling, and some display a strange mixture of both. –Tobias (talk) 12:08, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:GLAM/YNP → Wikipedia:GLAM/Yorkshire Network Project – Institutions in the GLAM project use the full name. Gonnym (talk) 11:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – HR 2562 b → HR 2562 B – Per WP:COMMONNAME; this object is generally referred to as HR 2562 B (with "B" capitalized, rather than lowercase) in literature, e.g. [20][21][22][23][24] ArkHyena (talk) 09:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nicolaas Pieneman (1880-1938) → Nicolaas Pieneman (painter, born 1880) – We don't ordinarily use lifespans as disambiguators. — BarrelProof (talk) 06:59, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Christopher Johnston (1822-1891) → Christopher Johnston (anatomist) – or Christopher Johnston (surgeon). We don't ordinarily use lifespans as disambiguators. — BarrelProof (talk) 06:32, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Family talks (1878-2003) → Pláticas de familia – The Spanish title seems more dominant. It's hard to even find the English title. The cited sources also seem to omit the date range. I also question the parentheses (not to mention the hyphen used instead of a dash). — BarrelProof (talk) 06:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Bolivarian Armed Forces of Venezuela → Bolivarian National Armed Forces – It is the only armed forces in the world with this name. We don't call NASA the National Aeronautics and Space Administration of the USA, so why should we do the same here? Viva Nicolás (talk) 05:29, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Greek love → Cultural impact of Classical Greek homoeroticism – The phrase "greek love" is misleading. An alternative option would then be to e.g. move it to "greek love (idiom)", but that too wouldn't be as precise as this previous title - which is now a redirect - used to be. Biohistorian15 (talk) 10:24, 3 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:48, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ahmadnagar Sultanate → Ahmadnagar sultanate – Similar to the recent downcasing move of Berar sultanate, these sultanates are very often referred to with lowercase "sultanate" in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 01:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Water-Babies, A Fairy Tale for a Land Baby → The Water-Babies – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:SUBTITLES. The subtitle is rarely used and does not even appear on the covers of many editions. Zacwill (talk) 01:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Scream (Six Flags) → Scream (Six Flags drop tower) – Partial disambiguation versus Scream (roller coaster) not justified. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
August 10, 2024
- (Discuss) – Sentiocentrism → Sentientism – The term "sentientism" is simpler and more popular than "sentiocentrism". Searching on Google Scholar returns 168 results for sentiocentrism and 949 for sentientism. On JSTOR, I get 709 results for sentientism and 7 for sentiocentrism Alenoach (talk) 22:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Presbyterian Church in Korea (HapDong) → The General Assembly of Presbyterian Church in Korea – The General Assembly of Presbyterian Church in Korea is the official English name used by this branch. See [25]. If this RM is accepted I will also go on and WP:BOLD other branches as well. -- 00101984hjw (talk) 21:36, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Warren (surgeon) → John Warren (surgeon, born 1753) – Attracted here by the improper hyphenated date range disambiguator in John Warren (1874-1928), I have learned that John Warren (surgeon) was the father of John Collins Warren, grandfather of Jonathan Mason Warren, great-grandfather of John Collins Warren Jr., and great-great-grandfather of John Warren (1874-1928). Several of them were surgeons (maybe all of them), so "(surgeon)" is not sufficient. I'm not sure whether the professor of anatomy was a surgeon, but I suspect he was, and I suspect some of the surgeons could be considered professors of anatomy. The "Collins" middle name was shared as well. In fact, I have found no evidence that John Collins Warren Jr. is actually called "Jr." in sources (see this article about him, for example, which doesn't use "Jr."; neither does this). He could hypothetically be referred to as John Warren IV, as he was the fourth in the line. He was not the son of John Collins Warren; he was his grandson via Jonathan Mason Warren. Note that the Harvard source also refers to John Collins Warren Jr. as "J. Collins Warren", and his father as "J. Mason Warren". — BarrelProof (talk) 19:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fort Moore (1846–1853) → Fort Moore (historical) – We need to at least replace the hyphen with an en dash per MOS:DATERANGE, but the purpose of this disambiguation term seems to merely be to distinguish the current Fort Moore from the historical one (assuming Moore's Fort is sufficiently distinct), and "historical" seems like a friendlier way to do that. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:03, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Tabaeen school attack → Al-Tabaeen school massacre – The flowchart on WP:DEATHS makes it clear that as the people are dead -> because of homicide -> not capital punishment -> nobody is convicted, we could go with "Al-Tabaeen school killings", but given the number of people who were killed, I believe massacre is, sadly, appropriate. Foreign ministries across the Arab world have also considered it a massacre, and we refer to other such tragic events - of varying scales - as a massacre (i.e. Bucha massacre, Hoddle Street massacre, Samashki massacre, etc.), so I believe this change is appropriate considering the scale of the incident and the number of dead and wounded as reported by RS within the article. Smallangryplanet (talk) 17:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – DuckTales → DuckTales (1987 TV series) – There is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, both the 1987 and 2017 series have similar significance. For example consider pageviews. The 2017 series has nearly the same pageviews and consider that users looking for the 2017 series may arrive at this article first instead. WikiNav also shows this. This is also shown by link counts: 1987 and 2017. The 2017 series is old enough that these numbers are not due to WP:RECENTISM. Arnav Bhate (talk) 16:45, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Olympic Pool, Montreal → Olympic Pool (Montreal) – Parentheses are used for North American places. 162 etc. (talk) 18:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 21:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:40, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Collingwood Blues (2020–) → Collingwood Blues – The qualifying bookend "(2020–)" is unnecessary. The article relates to an existing ice hockey team. Collingwood Blues (1988–2011) is for the defunct team with the same name. The target page is currently a redirect. Buffalkill (talk) 01:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 14:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Collingwood Blues → Collingwood Blues (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:WikiProject College Basketball → Wikipedia:WikiProject College basketball – There is a mismatch in capitalizing between the project name and the project category system. This seems to be the better fix. Gonnym (talk) 12:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Qixi Festival → Double Seventh Festival – : 1. "Double Seventh Festival" would be consistent with the titles of pages on other Chinese festivals, such as Double Ninth Festival and Double Third Festival. : 2. "Double Seventh Festival" is culturally neutral. This festival is not specifically "Chinese", it is a general East Asian festival (see Tanabata and Chilseok). Additionally, the cultures do not coincide with modern nation-states, "Chinese culture" is not a single culture, and it should not be equated with the Northern Chinese (Mandarin-speaking) culture. : Of course, there are local traditions and regional differences, but the way it is celebrated among the Hokkien or Cantonese people is arguably as different from the traditions of Northern China as are Japanese and Korean ways of its celebration. Yet we don't have to split the topic even more into a Northern Chinese Qi Xi festival, Cantonese Tsat Tse Festival, Hokkien Chit Niu Ma Festival, etc. The "Double Seventh Festival" would be appropriate to cover all of the regional versions of this festival. While we are at it, Zhinü should also be moved to Weaver Girl, and Niulang to Cowherd (Chinese mythology). These characters (especially the weaver girl) also have different names even in Chinese characters, compare 織女 (Mandarin Zhīnǚ and Korean Jiknyeo), 七娘媽 (Hokkien Chhit-niû-má), 織姫 (Japanese Orihime), 七姐 (Cantonese Cat1 ze2). Currently, Orihime and Hikoboshi refer to those articles, and there are no articles on Jiknyeo and Gyeonwu. That would also be consistent with the article The Cowherd and the Weaver Girl, which uses translated English names. QuestionableAnswers (talk) 11:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dyfed–Powys Police → Dyfed-Powys Police – MOS:ENBETWEEN as above, the MOS:DASH reason given for the previous move doesn't apply here. MOS:ENBETWEEN states:
Dyfed-Powys Police is a single police entity named after the two areas it covers, not an article with a descriptive title on the policing relationship of Powys and of Dyfed. Additionally the force themselves use a hyphen. DankJae 11:07, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Generally, use a hyphen in compounded proper names of single entities. *Guinea-Bissau; Bissau is its capital, and this name distinguishes the country from neighboring Guinea *Wilkes-Barre, a single city named after two people, but Minneapolis–Saint Paul, an area encompassing two cities *John Lennard-Jones, an individual named after two families
- (Discuss) – Casnewydd Bach → Little Newcastle – Revert non-commonname, non-policy move from a few years back. It argued "original name", its use when referring to pirate Black Bart, using the name used/preferred by the Welsh-speaking community itself (this is English Wikipedia), and its use at the top of bilingual road signs (but all (new/local) road signs in Wales have Welsh first, [26][27] nothing about common English use). Noting evidence above. English-language sources use Little Newcastle, so indicating that is its actual WP:COMMONNAME. The prev. move also argued it was the sole name used by Ordnance Survey, but this OS map via Bing, uses "Little Newcastle". The local church is signposted "Little Newcastle Parish Church". LN – All sources (using a name) in the article itself use "Little Newcastle". As do the: *local history society (site is bilingual), Western Telegraph[28][29][30], Wales Farmer, Church in Wales, BBC[31], Dyfed Archaeological Trust, Pembrokeshire Council, RCAHMW, Puncheston Council, Pembrokeshire Herald, and government commissioner. While WalesOnline uses both, having LN first when referring to the pirate. CB – These sources do use "Casnewydd Bach", but only in the historical context of Black Bart (its notable resident), whose article has had the Welsh name since 2004 shortly after it was created (raising WP:CIRCULAR): *nearby council, Insider Media, Royal Museums Greenwich. So possibly when Bart was alive the name was CB, or sources took the name from the article, nonetheless sources use Little Newcastle for specifically the village today. Ngrams shows the common name is Little Newcastle. Additionally using "Casnewydd Bach" because it is older, and used historically for the pirate, isn't a policy argument, we use the common name as it is today. Also the standardised Welsh form has become "Casnewydd-bach", as on road signs, so the name here doesn't even match. DankJae 10:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – August 2024 Kursk Oblast incursion → August 2024 Western Russia incursions – accurate description Waleed (talk) 09:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ballantyne's fire → Ballantynes fire – The apostrophe appears to be in the wrong place. Sources mostly either refer to this as the "Ballantynes fire" or the "Ballantynes' fire", and almost never "Ballantyne's fire". ―Panamitsu (talk) 08:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Orders of magnitude (magnetic field) → Orders of magnitude (magnetic flux density) – I would move the page myself, but there is currently a redirect. The page does not compare “magnetic fields” – e.g., Earth's magnetic field is much stronger than that of a neodymium magnet – but compares magnetic flux densities, measured in tesla, usually right above the magnet's surface. After the page has been moved the newly created redirect – "Orders of magnitude (magnetic field)" – can be edited to point to Orders of magnitude (magnetic moment) – which is closer to the measure of a magnetic field. Grufo (talk) 05:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:08, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of films with post-credits scenes → List of films with credits scenes – The current title of this article list is also misleading, again, because the term post-credits scene is just a variant of a credits scene. There's also a term mid-credits scene, which is also a variant, except that it's shown between the credits. So, it's better if we have the title change to simply "List of films with credits scenes" to refer to both mid and post-credits scenes mentioned in some movies with credits scenes. Anonymy365248 (talk) 08:07, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Post-credits scene → Credits scene – The current title of the article is misleading, because the term post-credits scene is just a variant of a credits scene. There's also a term mid-credits scene, which is also a variant, except that it's shown between the credits. So, it's better if we have the title change to simply "Credits scene" to refer to both mid and post-credist scenes. Anonymy365248 (talk) 07:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Minister for Cities → Minister for Cities (disambiguation) – As per redirect discussion, the title without the disambiguation redirects to Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government. The Primary topic is the Australian Ministry. DilatoryRevolution (talk) 05:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama (AP Sunnis) → Samastha (AP Faction) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Spworld2 (talk) 04:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zimmermann Telegram → Zimmermann telegram – Per WT:AT, WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS, these terms are not consistently capped in sources. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:23, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
August 9, 2024
- (Discuss) – Bee Branch Creek (Iowa) → Bee Branch Creek – The Iowan Bee Branch Creek seems to be far more notable than the Californian Bee Branch. Also, Iowa's BB is the third result when searching for "Bee Branch Creek California" (it may be different based on browser, I used Mozilla's incognito mode for testing). ✶Quxyz✶ 23:05, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Russian prisoner exchange → August 2024 international prisoner exchange – WP:NPOV. Many seem to be unhappy with the current title. Compare:
Alternatives proposed by Gödel2200: August 2024 Russian prisoner exchange, 2024 Ankara prisoner exchange
— Urro[talk][edits] ⋮ 22:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trois-Rivières Aigles → Trois-Rivières Aigles (1971–1977) – Thinking on it, long-term significance leans towards the current team being the primary topic as it's been around longer and has had much more coverage than the defunct affiliated minor league team that only played for seven years some decades ago. The current team has already lasted nearly twice as long as the old team, and shows no signs of going away anytime soon, so in my mind it's proven itself to be the most likely intended subject for someone looking up the team name. oknazevad (talk) 21:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 21:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Michelin starred restaurants in Seoul → List of Michelin-starred restaurants in South Korea – There are a few Michelin-starred restaurants in Busan as well [32]; I don't see any reason why we should have a separate article for Busan. May as well have it all on one list. Also, I think hyphenation as "Michelin starred" is functionally a single adjective. seefooddiet (talk) 21:15, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Save-A-Lot → Save A Lot – Contemporary sources such as this tend to render the name as "Save A Lot" with no hyphens and the A capitalized. I've found almost no sources that leave the A lowercase, so per precedent of articles such as SHeDAISY, there does seem to be enough evidence for the capital A to be in compliance with MOS:CAPS and MOS:TM. Although at the very least, common usage does seem to suggest that the hyphens have been dropped from the name. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Midland Mainline → Midland Mainline (train operating company) – The last time I requested this, I got the disambiguator tag wrong ('company' rather than 'train operating company'). Since its been a few months, and I am moving this to a different name this time, it should be acceptable (as in, not disruptive) to revisit it again. But anyway, similar to my previous rationale, the Midland Mainline TOC is long gone, and almost everyone searching for this is looking for the mainline, so I propose moving Midland Mainline to Midland Mainline (train operating company) then redirecting Midland Mainline to Midland Main Line. Even Google comes up with Midland Mainline first. I do get WP:SMALLDETAILS but I don't think it applies here since the primary topic is probably the mainline over the TOC. JuniperChill (talk) 19:26, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kazimierz Wodzicki (1816–1889) → Kazimierz Wodzicki (Polish nobleman, born 1816) – We generally do not use entire lifespans as disambiguation terms (see WP:NCPDAB), but I'm not so sure about the "Polish nobleman" part. Both he and his grandson were Polish noblemen and ornithologists. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:21, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ascalon → Ashkelon (ancient city) – Recently, the name of this article was changed from Tel Ashkelon to Ascalon. The rationale was that Ashkelon and Tel Ashkelon are too similar, and that readers cannot be expected to differentiate. It was said that Ascalon is the name of the historical site. This rationale is invalid. The name Ashkelon, is the conventionally accepted name for both the modern city, and the ancient site. In many cases, the name Ashkelon is even used when referring to periods in which it was historically known as Ascalon. This place has at least 20,000 years of history, accros many periods of times. It was a prehistoric site, a Canaanite, Philistine, Hellenistic city, a Crusader city, an Islamic city... We don't always know its actual name, and it has never had a single way to pronounce its name. I am suggesting to change the name to Ashkelon (ancient city). I divided my argument into three parts: (1) Ashkelon and Ascalon are virtually the same and therefore confusing; (2) The toponym for the ancient site is known in maps and sites as "Ashkelon"; (3) the conentional scholarly name for the city in all periods is "Ashkelon", including periods in which it was called in different names. 1. Ascalon and Ashkelon are virtually the same. It is very confusing still. Differetiating them with "ancient city" in brackets makes no mistakes. Another option would've been "Tel Ashkelon", but there were times in which the ancient settlements in Ashkelon were not exactly on the Tel, and the city often controlled a much broader territory. Tel Ashkelon would strictly refer to the antiquties, but the article's scope goes beyond it. Another opition I thought about was "History of Ashkelon", simmilar to how we have "History of Athens", but I think that this might confuse the people who are looking for the history of modern Ashkelon, whose place should be in the article about the modern city. Therefore, I think that Ashkelon (ancient city) is the clearest option for the scope of the article. 2. Location identification: Today, the principal site of ancient Ashkelon is known as Tel Ashkelon. This is a declared national park in Israel, and it apears by that name. The official name of the park is "Ashkelon National Park". I think it makes a lot of sense to assume, that many people who visit Israel as tourist, will likely enter this Wikipedia article. They will not be referred to Ascalon, but to Ashkelon, either Tel Ashkelon (mentioned here, here, here and [33], which were the first results I was given by google. Therefore, the site, as a location, is better identified with Ashkelon rather than Ascalon Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – RAI → Rai (Italian broadcasting company) – the common name is "Rai"; see the official site: https://www.rai.it/, the Treccani encyclopaedia: https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/rai-radiotelevisione-italiana/, and the it.wiki page: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai. JacktheBrown (talk) 22:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tonie → Tonie (given name) – Search results elsewhere seem to associate "Tonie" more closely to the subject at Tonies (company). However, It does not seem as though there is enough to validate Tonies (company) to be the primary topic for the singular for "tonie". The option here would be to disambiguate, probably by performing this move then retargeting Tonie to existing disambiguation page Tony. Steel1943 (talk) 17:51, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – De La Salle Green Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Green Archers volleyball – The above existing pages have titles that do emulate the placement of a disambiguating sports descriptor after the team name, per WP:QUALIFIER. This style of adding descriptors has been prescribed by example by, among other similar college-sports WikiProjects, this page under WP:CBBALL and this page under WP:CFB for titles of pages about United States college teams. Clearly, these descriptors were prescribed in order to naturally disambiguate (by WP:NATURAL) a page about a team playing a certain sport from pages about namesake teams that are playing in other sports. In each of the team pages above being requested for moving, however, 1) the team name used is not that of its institution's team's uniform or collective name but the special nickname or unique moniker given to that specific team playing in its sport, so much so that the need for disambiguation disappears. 2) what is produced by the addition of a disambiguating sport descriptor after the team's special nickname is a redundancy. For example, there are no other De La Salle Green Spikers other than the De La Salle Green Archers team playing men's volleyball. For having a redundant title, the page's title then creates WP:OVERPRECISION and breaches the WP:CONCISE rule. That, however, can be salvaged by replacing the special moniker with the institution's team's uniform or collective name, a replacement which is what would have the need for disambiguation and erase the redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ToadetteEdit (talk) 17:48, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- De La Salle Lady Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Lady Archers volleyball
- De La Salle Lady Booters football → De La Salle Lady Archers football
- UST Golden Spikers volleyball → UST Growling Tigers volleyball
- UST Golden Tigresses volleyball → UST Tigresses volleyball
- UST Lady Booters football → UST Tigresses football
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- (Discuss) – HD 179070 → Kepler-21 – Far simpler designation that is likely to be the most searched term for readers. Consistent with other Kepler stars. 21 Andromedae (talk) 16:37, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Litening → AN/AAQ-28 Litening – The article's lede immediately identifies that the only system discussed is the AN/AAQ-28. It is common practice when naming articles for devices which use the American military JETDS naming convention for the article to be like either AN/AAQ-28 or including the system name like AN/AAQ-28 Litening. For many examples, see Category:Military electronics of the United States. This would make the page far easier to locate since most users will search for either AN/AAQ-28 or AN/AAQ-28 Litening. It is not typical across Wikipedia to place the Manufacturer into the article name, such as Rafael AN/AAQ-28 Litening. I am not able to find any examples like that. But I am open to ideas. Please share your thoughts. — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 16:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Calls for the destruction of Israel → Calls for the dissolution of the State of Israel – More WP:NEUTRAL and WP:PRECISE. Change loaded word 'destruction'—which suggests physical damage or violence, as if it were about a physical object and not a political formation—to the more NEUTRAL and PRECISE 'dissolution' as in Dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. Because this article is about calls for the dissolution of the state, change the ambiguous 'Israel' to 'State of Israel' to avoid conflation with בני ישראל (Bənēy Yīsrāʾēl 'children of Israel/Jacob'), a biblical metonym for Jewish people. Calls for the dissolution of a state are not calls for the eradication of a people; that would be a separate topic. إيان (talk) 20:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Teenage Dream → Teenage Dream (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 02:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC) (edited 02:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nacho (disambiguation) → Nacho – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Nacho" per page views at [34] Joeykai (talk) 07:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Michael Bowes-Lyon → Michael Bowes-Lyon (disambiguation) – Every individual listed on the disambiguation page has some further means of disambiguation, be it the Strathmore earldom or they went by a middle name, except for this one. The parenthetical disambiguation does not seem necessary here. Walco1 (talk) 13:46, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines → Wikipedia:WikiProject Tambayan Philippines – WikiProjects start with the "WikiProjects" prefix. This is also what the lead sentence uses in this project page. Gonnym (talk) 10:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bento → Bento (food) – no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views [35] Joeykai (talk) 04:51, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Weaponization of antisemitism → Bad-faith charges of antisemitism – Per NDESC. "Weaponization" is ambiguous, and the current title could imply the enactment of antisemitism as a figurative weapon (as the phrase has been used to describe antisemitic rhetoric in Russia). It's also neither a common name (with the article's BESTSOURCES generally describing it non-euphemistically in terms of bad faith) nor a neutral description. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 22:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Backlog
- (Discuss) – Udûn → Udûn (The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power) – There were some undiscussed moves that led to the television episode ending up at this title and there are some who feel that this title should go to Udun or even Udûn, Mordor. This move was suggested again at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Middle-earth#The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power episodes based on consistency with the other episode articles for this series. I was hesitant as I felt that was not a good reason and there was no technical need for the added disambiguation, but I have come to see the value here. - adamstom97 (talk) 11:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jack Jarvis → Jack Jarvis (racehorse trainer) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views at [36] Joeykai (talk) 06:37, 1 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Piecewise → Piecewise mathematical object – Per WP:NOUN. The adjective title is jarring. Previous discussion is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics/Archive/2024/Mar#Piecewise. Mathematical object should include everything, addressing concerns about the concept needing to cover piecewise linear manifold and piecewise linear curve 174.92.25.207 (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 20:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 09:57, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–) → Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–present) – The current date range format for the first three of these hockey leagues doesn't seem to follow the usual Wikipedia convention. I found only 27 titles like this on the English Wikipedia. As for the fourth one, I found no indication that the older New Brunswick Junior Hockey League is a primary topic over the newer one, so I suggest disambiguation. Pageviews here. If we need to pick one of the two as primary, I suggest picking the new one. Some people looking for the new one are almost certainly landing on the article about the older one by accident. There is no hatnote to indicate that a reader might have found the wrong article. There is also a New Brunswick Junior C Hockey League article. Also, is it necessary to use "ice hockey" for the Northern League rather than just "hockey"? — BarrelProof (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:28 film franchise → Template:28 Days Later – 28 Days Later (film series) seems to be the accepted name for the series/franchise. ★Trekker (talk) 01:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 08:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twitter under Elon Musk → X (social network) – See Talk:Twitter#Requested move 17 May 2024 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 18:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gurjara-Pratihara dynasty → Pratihara dynasty – "Pratihara dynasty" seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME as shown by this graph. This compare the usages of both "Gurjara-Pratihara" + "Gurjara-Pratiharas" to "Pratihara" + "Pratiharas" after excluding the usages of "Gurjara-Pratihara" + "Gurjara-Pratiharas" from the graph of "Pratiharas". This graph clearly shows the prevalence of simply "Pratihara(s)" over "Gurjara-Pratihara(s)" by a very large margin, i.e, more than 4 times. In my course of editing for Wikipedia, I've seen that scholars usually use simply "Pratihara" more than "Gurajara-Pratihara". It also seems like this would be a more WP:neutral point of view name. PadFoot (talk) 18:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – World Rowing Federation → World Rowing – I believe the COMMONNAME is World Rowing, which is what they consistently use fro themselves. There are examples out there of using World Rowing Federation but I think they're rare. World Rowing is also more CONCISE. For what it's worth, World Rowing Federation is not the official name. According to their Bylaws, the official name is still FISA, but "World Rowing is the designation used operationally by FISA." In searching for references online it's tricky to separate references to World Rowing from the World Rowing Championships, but here are some recent examples: [37] [38] [39] JFHutson (talk) 16:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 17:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Shabaab (Mozambique) → Islamic State – Mozambique Province – I see more results for “Islamic State – Mozambique Province” rather than “Ansar al Sunna/Al Shabaab”. ISIL propaganda also uses the name “Wilayat Muzambiq” (Mozambique Province) when referring to this group’s activities and operations. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 22:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lille OSC → LOSC Lille – The current title is wrong in both WP:COMMONNAME and WP:OFFICIALNAME. Firstly, the club's official name is not "Lille Olympique Sporting Club"-- that's what it used to be. Today, the club's entire official name is "LOSC Lille". "Lille OSC", the current title, is used by nobody both in common and official usage. In media, the club is often referred to as "Lille", "LOSC", and often times as "LOSC Lille". We could move the title to just "LOSC", but since the English-language "short" name for usage in articles is just "Lille", this wouldn't really work smoothly. I say we should go by the club's actual name in this specific case, which is also really commonly used in sources, only third to Lille and LOSC (which I don't believe are valid titles.) Paul Vaurie (talk) 14:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Landing Ship, Tank → Tank landing ship – The military likes to list things by major category first, followed by modifier. The normal English way of referring to these things is actually more common in independent sources (some in all sources), and is more recognizable to most non-military readers than the backwards way that the military likes for list alphabetizing. None of these are proper names, as evidenced by frequent lowercase usage in sources. Example, from a Life magazine photo caption in 1943: "Boat is an infantry landing craft, carrying about 200 men. Offshore is tank landing ship." Another, from British War Production, H.M. Stationery Office, 1952: "It was, however, the tank landing craft, not the tank landing ship, that was to form the backbone of the British programmes of 1942 and 1943." I will add book n-gram stats for each, to compare both word order and case. Dicklyon (talk) 22:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Landing craft tank → Tank landing craft
- Landing Craft Infantry → Infantry landing craft
- Landing Craft Assault → Assault landing craft
- Landing craft mechanized → Mechanized landing craft
- Landing Craft Utility → Utility landing craft
- Landing Craft Support → Support landing craft
- Landing Ship Medium → Medium landing ship
- (Discuss) – 2024 South Korean doctors' strike → 2024 South Korean medical crisis – (1) "Crisis" is much used in both mass media[40][41] and academic sources.[42][43] (2) Precision: This involves not only trainee doctors, but also great number of med students.[44][45] The name "doctors' stirke" cannot include this activity of med students, becuase med students are not "doctors". Y-S.Ko (talk) 21:19, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – East Asian age reckoning → Age reckoning in the Sinosphere – Rationale explained here: Talk:Sinosphere#Pages using "East Asia" in place of the Sinosphere and in this longer post. Tl;dr, "East Asia" often excludes Vietnam, which is also a part of the Sinosphere. Related previous move discussions that passed: Seals in the Sinosphere and Sixtieth birthday in the Sinosphere. Open to more suggested titles. Alternates: # Sinosphere age reckoning #* I think a little confusing; may suggest trying to determine the age of the Sinosphere itself. # Traditional age reckoning in the Sinosphere #* This is more precise I feel; currently, as far as I'm aware, the entire Sinosphere no longer uses the age reckoning for major applications, mostly just ceremonial. "Age reckoning in x" can be interpreted as a present and not mostly past practice 104.232.119.107 (talk) 10:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:38, 28 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Queen of Hearts talk 14:34, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Register (sociolinguistics) → Socio-linguistic register – Parenthetical disambiguation, as used today, is kind of a last resort. Sociolinguistic is a bit squished for new readers, so I prefer a hyphen for first use, including in the title and lead sentence. I want the title to be easily parsed by readers who have not heard the term "Sociolinguistic" before, or even the prefix "Socio-". Simply Linguistic does not disambiguate enough: see Register (disambiguation)#Linguistics. Register as a base name does not meet my understanding of WP:COMMONNAME; I understand it as requiring the low-context variant (i.e. not the term used in the middle sections of papers in the field). As long as the full term is used in the titles of some papers in the field, I believe the full term should be considered to meet WP:COMMONNAME. And, well... this full name is used in the bodies of some papers, at least. And "linguistic register" is used in plenty of paper titles, but we've ruled that out for other reasons. My understanding of WP:COMMONNAME seems to be borne out by success in move discussions I started: from "Inflation (cosmology)" to "Cosmic inflation"; from "Transformation (genetics)" to "Genetic transformation". But I think it's time for me to start a discussion on the MOS talk page itself about this "low context vs high context" thing, since it may exist only in my mind at the moment, or as a non-obvious implication of other core CRITERIA for article titles. All that said, I believe Socio-linguistic register is the best title for this article. The hyphen or entire prefix can and should be dropped for most subsequent uses within the article. Jruderman (talk) 04:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Edmundo González Urrutia → Edmundo González – Most sources refer to the subject as Edmundo González instead of his full name. Even Spanish Wikipedia refers to him as Edmundo González. Zinderboff(talk) 16:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Edmundo González → Edmundo González (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – 13 July 2024 Al-Mawasi airstrikes → 13 July 2024 al-Mawasi attack – For some reason this article was opened separately from this article: 2024 targeted assassination of Muhammad Deif. But since it has already been written, I recommend specifying the date of the attack to a specific day. Galamore (talk) 19:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 06:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Haileybury and Imperial Service College → Haileybury (Hertfordshire) – The school's official name is Haileybury College altho it is commonly known as just Haileybury. Haileybury and Imperial Service College is a previous name no longer used Southdevonian (talk) 18:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Southdevonian (talk) 11:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Haret Hreik airstrike → 30 July 2024 Beirut attack – a better name would be 30 July 2024 Beirut attack because we only know there is an attack on Beirut, maybe the person isn't dead. Kavas (talk) 18:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anti-Black sentiment → Anti-Black racism – Sentiment against a 'race' is racism. Alexanderkowal (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:57, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 13:48, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Privately made firearm → Ghost gun – WP:COMMONNAME, see above. WestRiding24 (talk) 08:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 01:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SWIFT → Swift (banking) – SWIFT uses "Swift" name commonly. Ahri Boy (talk) 17:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 21:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestinian genocide accusation → Palestinian genocide – Given the movement of Gaza genocide to that title, the current title here has become incongruously inconsistent. How can the parent of a child topic that is not couched in the language of "accusation" be couched in that language? It should be obvious than it should not. More generally, it has become apparent that the language of "accusation" is generally inappropriate. This is not only per MOS:ACCUSED (which outlines how the language of accusation is problematic in its presumptive deployment of doubt (presumably ultimately as a corollary of WP:NPOV)), but also per consistency with similar titles on similar subjects. There are many pages on the topics of presumed or suspected (but not legally ruled on) genocides -- this is in fact the majority of them -- but no other genocide topic on Wikipedia, regardless of how speculative it is, is couched as a "genocide accusation". See the search results. Likewise, the phrase "Palestinian genocide accusation" is all but unknown to scholarship, in stark contrast to "Palestinian genocide", which is a common and widely used phrase, including in titular form, such as in the 2013 The Palestinian Genocide by Israel by the eminent Francis Boyle. In the previous move discussion, I somewhat rallied support around the current title, but that was in October last year, before much of the subsequent discussion around developments in Gaza. It seemed sensible at the time, but that was then, and this is now. Events have moved on significantly since then, not least with the ICJ case and provisional measures -- and hence the Gaza genocide move. As this page covers the overarching legal and scholarly topic of Palestinian genocide, the weight of both everything that went into the Gaza genocide RM discussion, and everything that precedes it in Palestinian history, including the Nakba and all subsequent Israeli policies and actions that have been discussed as conceivably genocidal by legal and academic experts, is under consideration. Given that this page has a significantly grander scope than its child, its title cannot reasonably contain greater doubt than that of its child. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Jerium (talk) 15:16, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tales of the Jedi (TV series) → Star Wars: Tales – Since this move made nearly three months ago has been objected to, here is an RM. I personally don't agree with the need as consensus was reached on the matter. Never the less, this anthology series had its first installment released as (formally) Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (commonly Tales of the Jedi) in October 2022, with it announced in April 2023 that it would get a second season (wording used by media outlets, though the quote from Filoni was "Tales of the Jedi was so fun the first time, I decided to do some more.") Subsequently, it was announced a year later in April 2024 that this second "season" was a new "installment", Star Wars: Tales of the Empire (commonly Tales of the Empire). This press release shows the use of both formal names as well as the key quote in my view (and the determination of the previous consensus) that Tales of the Empire was
the second installment of the "Tales" series
. Thus, an appropriate name to address this anthology series considering the formal name would be Star Wars: Tales, which provides a WP:NATURAL name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bolognese School → Bolognese school – Schools of art, schools of thought, etc., are usually rendered in sources with lowercase school. We should fix, consistent with WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS. This is a logical extension of the consensus at Talk:Cretan School#Requested move 25 April 2024, but I thought I'd do another discussion just in case. And for the Cuzco school, restore the common spelling. (These are all found at Template:Western art movements, and there may be others there that I've missed.) Dicklyon (talk) 02:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lucchese School → Lucchese school
- Delft School (painting) → Delft school (painting)
- Norwich School of painters → Norwich school of painters
- Boston School (painting) → Boston school (painting)
- Volcano School → Volcano school
- Pont-Aven School → Pont-Aven school
- Cusco School → Cuzco school
- Quito School → Quito school
- Sienese School → Sienese school
- Cologne School of Painting → Cologne school of painting
- Hudson River School → Hudson River school
- Cologne School → Cologne school
- Cologne School (music) → Cologne school (music)
- (Discuss) – All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment → All-purpose lightweight individual carrying equipment – These military equipment designators are often capped in official lists, but also often lowercase in sentences in both official and "independent" publications, so per MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS we should default to lowercase, in titles and in article text (except Interceptor should be capped even mid-sentence, as that's the proper name of the armor system, not a descriptive term). I had moved them already, thinking they'd be uncontroversial in light of a bunch of previous military equipment designation RMs, but these were objected to and reverted, so let's discuss. Dicklyon (talk) 22:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Te Whatu Ora → Health New Zealand - Te Whatu Ora – Per WP:OFFICIALNAMES, WP:COMMONNAME Lluq (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – London Olympics → London hosting the Olympic games – Schwed66 did the same move with Paris Olympics. Titles need to be consistent when appropriate. Georgia guy (talk) 00:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Eights Week → Summer Eights – While referred to as Eights Week in the past, the event is far more commonly known as Summer Eights today. All University, College, and town publication, including all material from the actual organisers refers to the event as 'Summer Eights', not 'Eights Week'. Additionally, as referred to by the last move request back in 2016, there are far more common results for Summer Eights than Eights Week in search engines. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically. OxfordRowing (talk) 20:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. microbiologyMarcus [petri dish·growths] 15:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Transgender hormone therapy → Hormone replacement therapy (transgender) – It has become clear that the current article at Hormone replacement therapy for menopausal application does not qualify as a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC after reviewing of page navigation flows for Hormone replacement therapy, Hormone therapy and Transgender hormone therapy. An outsizedly large amount of traffic that currently navigates straight from Hormone replacement therapy to Transgender hormone therapy, since HRT is also referred to for it (as outlined in the lead of the article), or to the current disambiguating article Hormone therapy, which combined account for 30% of the navigation from the current HRT article. So I propose that Hormone replacement therapy doesn't have a clear primary topic and as such we should rename the two articles to both use "Hormone replacement therapy" (or HRT in short) as their WP:COMMONNAME with the specific application in parenthesis. And then turn the current "Hormone replacement therapy" into a simple disambiguation page, or redirect it to Hormone therapy (which kind of already acts as a disambiguation page, as also shown from the traffic of the hat note). Raladic (talk) 20:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 07:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – House demolition → House demolition (military) – The primary topic for demolishing houses would be demolition. The military use of house demolition is not the obvious primary topic and should be disambiguated. I would also not be opposed to (militiary tactic), but it doesn't seem like other articles use it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Voluntary assisted dying in Western Australia → ? – This page is functionally a page about the specific law: Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2019. The other pages in this area which are about specific laws, they are named after the specific law: *Rights of the Terminally Ill Act 1995 - there is no Voluntary assisted dying in the Northern Territory *Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2017 - there is no Voluntary assisted dying in Victoria For the purposes of uniformity, this page should be renamed Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2019 A history/background section is perfectly reasonable to have in a page about a specific law - that is the case for Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006, Aliens Deportation Act 1948, Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 2021. DotCoder (talk) 19:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:14, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arab citizens of Israel → Palestinian and Arab citizens of Israel – Per the smart suggestion from Keizers in the discussion above, this middle ground should address the concerns of both sides. Many editors have put a lot of time into this debate over many years, so we would ask you not to vote until you have reviewed the following discussions: * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel/Archive 8#Requested move 27 October 2021 * Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian citizens of Israel (6 March 2024, proposed by Keizers) * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 21 March 2024 Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 20:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Saddle tramp → Saddle tramp (disambiguation) – Created main space page for Saddle tramp. Name previously redirected to Saddle tramp (disambiguation) page. The title Saddle tramp should direct to this page, not the disambiguation page. There is a header link at the top of this page. Maineartists (talk) 14:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel – I believe that enough time has passed since the last RM (which proposed the simpler "7 October attacks" name and closed with consensus to retain the current title) to re-propose a title change for this article. I believe that "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this event, as seen in sources such as: * Al Jazeera: "... counter the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which saw ..." * Bloomberg: "... trapped in Gaza since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which prompted ..." * CBC: "... around the world since the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of Oct. 7 but are now ..." * CNN: "... from the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel being held ..." * Euracitiv: "... triggered by the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel in which ..." * France24: "Before the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that triggered ..." * ISW: "... spokesperson claimed that the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel was retaliation ..." * Middle East Eye: "Following the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel and subsequent ..." * NPR: "... Palestinian armed groups since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that set off the war ..." * NYTimes: "... including some who participated in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, and that ..." * Reuters: "... were involved in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that precipitated ..." * Times of Israel: "... during and after the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel." * The Conversation: "... participated in the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which resulted ... " * WaPo: "Since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, restrictions have ..." Many sources simply say "7 October" or "October 7 attacks" instead of spelling out the full name, but I believe that while "7 October attacks" could be a more COMMON name, I think that it fails WP:AT#Precision in favor of "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel." DecafPotato (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Doctor Who season 1 → Doctor Who season 1 (1963–1964) – I think there is a consensus for another requested move and for these move to be part of it, so I am starting another formal requested move. Cal3000000 (talk) 07:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Mario franchise characters → List of Mario characters – More concise title, WP:CONSISTENT with other video game franchise characters lists: *List of Donkey Kong characters *List of The Legend of Zelda characters *List of Star Fox characters etc. Mia Mahey (talk) 17:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Malformed requests
- Talk:Oleksandr Oliynyk – Failure to parse Description and Timestamp
References
- ^ Kirby, Paul (15 August 2024). "First case of more contagious mpox found outside Africa". BBC. Retrieved 15 August 2024.
See also
- Wikipedia:Requested moves/Article alerts, which includes a list of recently closed, as well as open discussions