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Double Sentence?[edit]

The sentence "In November 2022, British YouTuber Harris "Hbomberguy" Brewis published a video essay which documented many high-profile false claims that Tallarico had made concerning his career." Appears in both the main body of the page and in the career section. Not sure which place it's supposed to be 2610:148:1F02:6000:50D7:3DE5:4FBB:B3B4 (talk) 16:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The WP:LEAD (intro) is supposed to briefly summarize the content that is covered in the rest of the article. It looks like a newbie yesterday did a rather poor job of writing an intro, and the intro should be reworded so it's not so redundant (or detailed) as the body content. Sergecross73 msg me 16:25, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i think just cutting down a few words should work
something like "In 2022, YouTuber Harris 'Hbomberguy' Brewis published a video essay documenting false claims that Tallarico had made." cogsan (give me attention) (see my deeds) 16:43, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've revised the statement. Also notes that it was publications that made note of it, or otherwise it's likely to be removed, as we generally would not include commentary from self-published YouTubers on a WP:BLP. Sergecross73 msg me 16:49, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2023[edit]

There needs to be a "Controversy" section added, tabulating Tommy's documented history of lying about his accomplishments, taking credit for other people's work, and illegal activity (see: United States c. Thomas Andrew Tallarico). Most of the pertinent information can be found in the following YouTube investigative documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0twDETh6QaI

At the very least, his legal history of lying and federal crime should be listed. 74.99.88.219 (talk) 20:39, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done per WP:CSECTION, WP:YOUTUBE, and WP:BLPSPS. Sergecross73 msg me 21:12, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hbomberguy[edit]

Considering that Tallarico has been radio silent since the release of the video, I think it's worth including the hbomberguy video on this article (which it already is). However, it doesn't have a citation. In this instance the only secondary source I could find was this article. I'd be appreciative if someone could find an article by a more established site. Delukiel (talk) 23:37, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

People talk about this all the time on the talk page. It would appear what is usable, is already in the article. YouTubers aren't usable sources, especially on a WP:BLP, and only a handful of useful publications seemed to pick up the story, and most only covered it in vague terms. Which explains the current state of the article. Sergecross73 msg me 01:00, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Must've missed someone bring it up earlier. What you said makes sense. As far as YouTubers not being usable sources, that's why I'm not in favor of just adding the video as a source. Need something secondary.
What other publications picked up the story? This was the only one I could find. Delukiel (talk) 01:13, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
he did list his sources[1], maybe they can be used instead? 85.31.21.47 (talk) 12:53, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, there are sources later in the article—my IQ is just low. Delukiel (talk) 01:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I'm just quick to answer because I've been fielding a lot of the same questions for the last year or two. Sergecross73 msg me 01:18, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

grammar[edit]

in Personal Life it should say "his McMansion-like home" or "his McMansion-like house", or similar, instead of just "his McMansion-like in San Juan Capistrano", no?

idk anything about Wikipedia; it says it's locked for editing rn 122.104.117.6 (talk) 12:15, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

the article is semi-protected, which means you need an account, and that account needs to be at least 4 days old and have at least 10 edits
that aside, i think just referring to it as a mcmansion would work, so i'll be doing that cogsan (give me attention) (see my deeds) 13:02, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2024[edit]

From the 'Personal Life' section, remove the description of his house. He has listed his house for sale recently.

https://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Juan-Capistrano/30971-Hunt-Club-Dr-92675/home/4910468 Digdugnate (talk) 11:28, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

THREE MILLION FREEDOM MONEY!?
if that can be used as a source, which i don't think is the case for mostly the same reasons as wp:userg, it should probably be used to state that he listed the house, as opposed to disregarding a previously established source cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:22, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done - Per above, that sort of sourcing isn't good enough on Wikipedia. That said, one could still open up a separate discussion and see if they could get a WP:CONSENSUS on whether it's particularly important to cover on other grounds in the first place though. Sergecross73 msg me 15:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i'd say give it a month
some rs might mention it someday cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:09, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just meant, one could argue it's not particularly noteworthy to write about someone's house if it's not particularly tied to their notability. I don't really care either way, but I could see a valid path for removal more in the grounds of "this isn't particularly important to cover on Wikipedia" grounds if someone pushed for it right. But it'd be more of a discussion, not something to suggest through an edit request. Sergecross73 msg me 16:29, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On the other hand, there's already a reliable source reporting on it some here too - https://www.timeextension.com/news/2024/02/you-can-own-tommy-tallaricos-house-if-you-have-usd3-million-to-spare Sergecross73 msg me 17:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
that was faster than i expected
so maybe just add a sentence after his house's description, describing how it's set to stop being his someday?
something like "According to the LA Times, his home in San Juan Capistrano "looks as if a 12-year-old with a huge bank account went wild", including a life-size Indiana Jones, several Star Wars characters, and a statue of Merlin.[old source] As of February 2024, Tallarico has listed it for sale for US$ 2,999,000.[new source]"
redfin says he put it up yesterday, source says nothing about the date, so i played it safe and just listed the month. not sure if the price goes here, but it's on the source, so... cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, that sounds good. The month is probably as detailed as we really need to document anyways. Sergecross73 msg me 17:58, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
so i guess it can be considered  done now cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The list of games Tallarico (supposedly) worked on[edit]

I'm currently going through the list of games in this article, since recent events have cast doubt on what games Tallarico actually worked on. I'm primarily using the game manual to see whether Tallarico is credited, as secondary sources for many of these games are basically impossible to find or simply don't exist. I'm tagging claims not backed up by the game manual credits are "Verification failed", which I know isn't quite how that tag is supposed to be used, but I'll do that before removing games from the list. Cortador (talk) 22:25, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be quite honest, if verification fails I think we should be ok removing entries. I mean, most of these were added in 2020 by a random IP with no sources, so I don't feel the need to give him the benefit of the doubt. Alyo (chat·edits) 23:26, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point. I'll remove them. Cortador (talk) 04:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the current tables for reference:
The tables

Video games[edit]

Tommy Tallarico[edit]

Year Title Role(s) Notes Ref.
1991 Chuck Rock Testing [1]
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves Quality assurance Game Boy version [2]
1992 Prince of Persia Music and SFX [3]
Muhammad Ali Heavyweight Boxing With Michelle Sorger [citation needed]
Monopoly Deluxe Music and sound coordinator [citation needed]
Jeep Jamboree: Off Road Adventure Game Boy version [4]
Greg Norman's Golf Power Product manager, assistant manual editor [5]
M.C. Kids Quality assurance [6]
Corporation [7]
Club Racquetball Sound With Steve Henifin [citation needed]
Mick & Mack As The Global Gladiators Music, sound FX and samples Sega Genesis version [8]
Batman: Revenge of the Joker Music and sound [9]
1993 Another World [10]
The Terminator Director of music and FX With Brad Fiedel, Bijan Shaheer, Joey Kuras and TeknoMan of Teknologic [11]
Cool Spot Music, SFX and samples Sega Genesis and Super NES versions [12][13]
Super Caesars Palace Executive musicians, actor With Steve Henefin [citation needed]
RoboCop versus The Terminator Director of music and FX Sega Genesis version [14]
Color a Dinosaur Music and sound [15]
Super Slap Shot [16]
1994 Race Days [citation needed]
Caesars Palace Music With Seth Mendelsohn & Matt Furniss [citation needed]
Disney's Aladdin With Donald Griffn [17]
Earthworm Jim: Special Edition Music and SFX With Mark Miller [3]
The Jungle Book Director of music and FX With several others [18]
Heart of the Alien Music & sound With Jean-François Freitas [citation needed]
Demolition Man Original game music 3DO version, with Keith Arem, Joey Kuras & Charlie Malone [citation needed]
1995 Agile Warrior: F-111X Sprite actor, ingame sound effects With Joey Kuras and Keith Arem [citation needed]
Madden NFL 96 Music and sound [19]
Spot Goes To Hollywood Audio and sound effects [citation needed]
Earthworm Jim 2 Music and sound With Tony Bernetich and Christopher Beck [20]
Jim Lee's WildC.A.T.S: Covert Action Teams Music and sound [21]
1997 The 7th Guest Sound With Steve Henifin [22]
1999 Ultra Fighters Music With Scott Coldwell [citation needed]
R/C Stunt Copter Audio script [citation needed]
Demolition Racer Writer, producer, performer, sound effects With various others [citation needed]
Wings of Fury Music Game Boy Color version [citation needed]
2000 Messiah Music and sound effects With Jesper Kyd and Joey Kuras [23]
Arthur's Absolutely Fun Day! Music [citation needed]
Spider-Man With Howard Ulyate [24]
Sacrifice Sound effects With Joey Kuras [25]
Evil Dead: Hail to the King Music composer, producer and audio production coordinator With Todd Dennis, Chris Rickwood, and Jack Wall as well as Forte Music [26]
2001 Knockout Kings 2001 Sound and audio With various others [citation needed]
Maximo: Ghosts to Glory Music and sound design [citation needed]
2003 Black & Bruised Voice over producer [27]
Devastation Additional tracks [28]
Fugitive Hunter: War on Terror Contributed songs [29]
Maximo vs. Army of Zin Music, sound design and voice acting With various others [citation needed]
SpyHunter 2 Cinematic sound design & composition With Joey Kuras & Howard Ulyate [30]
2004 The Bard's Tale Music, lyrics, sound design With various others [31]
The X-Files: Resist or Serve Audio director [32]
2005 Advent Rising [33]
2006 AND 1 Streetball [citation needed]
Snoopy vs. the Red Baron Music and sound design With Joey Kuras and Scott Ligon [34]
Pac-Man World Rally Score With Joey Kuras [35]
2008 Line Rider 2: Unbound Sound effects [citation needed]
Defendin' De Penguin Composer With Mike Rubino & Rod Abernathy [citation needed]
2009 Sonic and the Black Knight Music, arrangements With Howard Drossin, Richard Jacques, Jun Senoue and others [3]
2010 Flip's Twisted World Audio design With Joey Kuras [36]
Super Tofu Boy Music donation [37]
2012 Retro City Rampage Actor [citation needed]

Tommy Tallarico Studios[edit]

Year Title Role(s) Staff credited and other people involved Ref.
1996 Black Dawn Music and sound effects Todd Dennis [38]
Skeleton Warriors Music and FX Todd Dennis, Jean-Christoph Beck, and Eric Swanson [39]
1998 Apocalypse In-game sound effects and cut-scene audio [40]
1999 Redline Music [41]
Knockout Kings 2000 Sound design Joey Kuras [42]
Tomorrow Never Dies Music and sound FX [43]
Unreal Mission Pack I: Return to Na Pali Sound Alexander Brandon and Eric Heberling [44]
2000 Spider-Man Sound Joey Kuras [24]
2001 Casper: Spirit Dimensions Sound and voices Joey Kuras [45]
2002 Scooby-Doo! Night of 100 Frights Music and sound FX Joey Kuras (sound design) [46]
2003 War of the Monsters Sound FX [47]
2004 The Incredibles Sound FX design With Nathan Lee Smith [48]
The Bard's Tale Audio [31]
Fugitive Hunter: War on Terror Audio direction, sound FX Joey Kuras [29]
The X-Files: Resist or Serve Sound design and foley Joey Kuras (sound design), Mike Tallarico (voice over editing) [32]
2005 Advent Rising Audio and score composition Joey Kuras (sound design), Michael Richard Plowman, Emmanuel Fratianni [33]
2006 Jaws: Unleashed Music [49]
Pac-Man World Rally Music [35]

Cortador (talk) 14:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Chuck Rock instruction manual (PDF). Virgin Games. 1991. p. 11. Archived (PDF) from the original on February 26, 2024. Retrieved February 26, 2024.
  2. ^ Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves instruction manual (PDF). Virgin Games. 1992. p. 16.
  3. ^ a b c Cite error: The named reference Bevan 2023 j665 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  4. ^ Jeep Jamboree: Off Road Adventure instruction manual (PDF). Virgin Games. 1992. p. 21. Archived (PDF) from the original on February 26, 2024. Retrieved February 26, 2024.
  5. ^ Greg Norman's Golf Power instruction manual. Virgin Games. 1992. p. 5.
  6. ^ M. C. Kids instruction manual (PDF). Virgin Games. 1992. p. 37. Archived (PDF) from the original on May 27, 2024. Retrieved May 27, 2024.
  7. ^ Corporation instruction manual (Sega Genesis) (PDF). Virgin Games. 1992. p. 34. Archived (PDF) from the original on June 6, 2024. Retrieved May 27, 2024.
  8. ^ Mick & Mack As The Global Gladiators instruction manual (PDF). Virgin Games. 1992. p. 18. Archived (PDF) from the original on June 6, 2024. Retrieved May 28, 2024.
  9. ^ Batman: Revenge of the Joker instructional manual (PDF). Sunsoft. 1992. p. 14. Archived (PDF) from the original on May 28, 2024. Retrieved May 28, 2024.
  10. ^ Out of this World instruction manual (Sega Genesis) (PDF). Virgin Games. 1993. p. 11. Archived (PDF) from the original on June 6, 2024. Retrieved June 4, 2024.
  11. ^ The Terminator instruction manual (PDF). Virgin Games. 1993. p. 19. Archived (PDF) from the original on August 22, 2018. Retrieved May 27, 2024.
  12. ^ Cool Spot instruction manual (Sega Genesis) (PDF). Virgin Games. 1993. p. 32. Archived (PDF) from the original on January 30, 2022. Retrieved May 31, 2024.
  13. ^ Cool Spot instruction manual (SNES) (PDF). Virgin Games. 1993. p. 26.
  14. ^ RoboCop Versus The Terminator instruction manual (Sega Genesis) (PDF). Virgin Games. 1993. p. 25. Archived (PDF) from the original on June 6, 2024. Retrieved May 31, 2024.
  15. ^ Color a Dinosaur instruction manual (PDF). Virgin Games. 1993. p. 38.
  16. ^ Super Slap Shot instruction manual (PDF). Virgin Games. 1993. p. 25.
  17. ^ Disney's Aladdin instruction manual (PDF). Virgin Games. 1993. p. 27.
  18. ^ The Jungle Book instruction manual (Sega Genesis) (PDF). Virgin Games. 1994. p. 14. Archived (PDF) from the original on June 6, 2024. Retrieved June 4, 2024.
  19. ^ Madden NFL 96 instruction manual (Sega Genesis) (PDF). EA Sports. 1993. p. 30. Archived (PDF) from the original on June 6, 2024. Retrieved June 4, 2024.
  20. ^ Earthworm Jim 2 instruction manual (SNES), Playmate Interactive Entertainment, 1995 p. 19
  21. ^ Jim Lee's Wild C. A. T. S Covert Action Teams instruction manual, Playmates Interactive, 1995 p. 14.
  22. ^ The 7th Guest instruction manual, Virgin Games & Trilobyte, 1997 p. 38
  23. ^ Meers, Whitney (July 27, 2022). "Roblox's iconic 'oof' sound removed due to licensing". PCGamesN. Archived from the original on 2022-11-18. Retrieved 2022-11-18.
  24. ^ a b Spider-Man (PlayStation) instruction manual, Activision, 2000 p. 24
  25. ^ Sacrifice instruction manual, Interplay, 2000 p. 72
  26. ^ Evil Dead: Hail to the King instruction manual, THQ, 2000 p. 24
  27. ^ Black & Bruised instruction manual, Vivendi Universal Games, 2003 p. 29
  28. ^ Devastation instruction manual, NovaLogic, 2003, p. 18
  29. ^ a b Fugitive Hunter: War on Terror instruction manual, Encore Software, 2003, p. 21-22
  30. ^ SpyHunter 2 instruction manual, Midway, 2003 p. 14
  31. ^ a b The Bard's Tale instruction manual, Vivendi Universal Games, 2004 p.21
  32. ^ a b The X-Files: Resist or Serve instruction manual, Vivendi Universal Games, 2004 p. 17
  33. ^ a b Advent Rising instruction manual, Majesco Entertainment, 2005 p. 24
  34. ^ Snoopy vs. the Red Baron instruction manual, Namco Bandai Games, 2006 p. 19
  35. ^ a b Pac-Man World Rally instruction manual, Bandai Namco Games, 2006 p. 34
  36. ^ Campbell, Evan (2010-08-17). "Interview: Flip's Twisted World". Nintendojo. Retrieved 2024-06-21.
  37. ^ Cite error: The named reference IGN 2010 q604 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  38. ^ Black Dawn instruction manual (PlayStation), Virgin Interactive Entertainment, 1996 p. 15
  39. ^ Skeleton Warriors instruction manual, Playmates Interactive Entertainment, 1996 p. 16
  40. ^ Apocalypse instruction manual, Activision, 1997 p. 19
  41. ^ Redline instruction manual, Accolade, 1999 p. 11
  42. ^ Knockout Kings 2000 instruction manual, EA Sports, 1999 p. 24
  43. ^ Tomorrows Never Dies instruction manual, Electronic Arts and MGM Entertainment, 1999 p. 16
  44. ^ Unreal Mission Pack I: Return to Na Pali instruction manual, GT Interactive Software, 1999 p. 16
  45. ^ Caspar: Spirit Dimensions instruction manual, TDK, 2001 p. 16
  46. ^ Scooby-Doo! Night of 100 Frights instruction manual, THQ, 2002 p. 26
  47. ^ War of the Monsters instruction manual, Sony Computer Entertainment, 2003 p. 16
  48. ^ The Incredibles instruction manual, THQ, 2004 p. 21
  49. ^ Jaws: Unleashed instruction manual,Majesco Entertainment, 2006 p. 15
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