User talk:Joe Roe

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Joe Roe,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

NPP backlog May – October 15, 2022

Suggestions:

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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Joe Roe,

New Page Review queue December 2022

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello Joe Roe,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

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Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome Joe Roe! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

CactiStaccingCrane (talk)15:38, 2 February 2024 UTC [refresh]via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

Mass IPBE request

Dear User:Joe Roe,

We kindly write to request for IPBE for our university students ahead of an adit a thon which will be hosted on the 5th and 12th July. All the users are new and this unblock will be helpful as we will mostly be working on English Wikipedia. Find link to the event page- https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event:WikiForHumanRights2024-Ghana_W4SAFRICA. Your support is greatly needed and appreciated. Kindly see the list of user names on the event dashboard or find here;

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Best,

Ruby D-Brown (talk) 11:16, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Ruby D-Brown. That sounds like a great event. Can I ask why you're requesting this from me specifically? Are these users caught in an IP block I placed? – Joe (talk) 11:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Joe, there is not specific reason, I used this tool to find you https://apersonbot.toolforge.org/recently-active/?admins. I'm not sure if i contact the right person but i was hopeful i can get someone to support me or direct me. I am requesting Ip Unblock for these new users because they are new. From our previous campaign edit, our new editors could not edit English Wikipedia as they were all blocked which really impacted the event. That was not the only case; it always happens when new users who are enthusiastic get blocked and cut short on their expectations. We will like to mitigate this experience ahead of time. We believe that getting them unblocked ahead of time can facilitate a smooth experience. Also, they are being guided by experienced editors to ensure that the content put on Wikipedia is guided. Ruby D-Brown (talk) 11:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh I see, no problem. I've never actually granted IPBE before, though, so I'm afraid I'm not the best person to help you directly. You could try Wikipedia talk:IP block exemption. – Joe (talk) 11:42, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much will check it out. Ruby D-Brown (talk) 18:18, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

History of rice cultivation

Hi Joe, noted your edit at Domestication. I've tweaked Rice and History of rice cultivation with the same source, but I fancy that the History article is using a lot of old sources, all added at the same time a decade ago, and probably in need of a bit more updating. If you fancy taking a look, it'd be appreciated. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:19, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap: Sure, I'll try to take a look. – Joe (talk) 15:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Question

Hey, I hope you are doing well. I have a small question in mind. If I revert someone’s edit that is under “Pending Changes,” should I notify the user or just leave it without notifying? I am asking because I have noticed that most people do not post warnings.

Also, I am deeply sorry to you, Josh and others for the previous mess I created at the PERM and on my Talk page. I promise never to do anything like that again. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks. GrabUp - Talk 03:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Grabup. As long as you leave an explanatory edit summary, a notification isn't needed. They should get an echo alert automatically. – Joe (talk) 07:57, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, now it is clear to me. GrabUp - Talk 08:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey there, I have other questions on my mind. Since I am blocked because of what happened, and you said I can apply for permissions after the ban ends, will I be declined any requests in the future citing this block? For example, WP:NPPCRITERIA’s fourth rule. I am not only referring to NPP but also other permissions such as WP:PMCRITERIA’s fourth rule. Will I be declined because of this block?

Also, you blocked me from all PERMS, which is okay, but I am currently on trial for Rollbackers and using the Antivandal tool to counter vandalism. How can I apply for it after the right expires? GrabUp - Talk 08:33, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

I'll lift the block on WP:PERM/R. Whether it is relevant to any future requests is up to whichever admin processes that request. I would say that the purpose of this block, beyond stopping the immediate disruption on the PERM pages, was to encourage you to focus on things other than collecting rights – applying for them again shortly after (i.e. less than six months) your block expires does not exactly show that. – Joe (talk) 09:43, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I will keep that in mind. I would also like to confirm that I was not just collecting rights. If that were the case, I would not have used any of the rights I have, such as AfC, Pending Changes, and Rollbackers. I wanted that right because I wanted to patrol. Anyway, I will focus on other areas as suggested. Happy editing. GrabUp - Talk 09:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Robocritic

Hello. You granted new page reviewer status to Robocritic and immediately he has blanked 2 of my pages and redirected them without going through the nomination process. 1 is this allowed? 2 can I appeal? 3 this guy is clearly unsuitable to be a reviewer so can I appeal against him getting this status? Shrug02 (talk) 07:24, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Shrug02. Yes, it's a common practice called blank-and-redirecting. There is no need to appeal to anyone; if you disagree, just revert it. If RoboCric (courtesy ping) disagrees with this, they can then start a discussion. I realise that the sudden disappearance of your article can feel drastic, but the logic is that because blank-and-redirecting is easily reverted, it can be handled using the normal bold-revert-discuss cycle. – Joe (talk) 08:02, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Shrug02 (talk) 08:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

How can I access the pages to turn off the redirect as when I click on them they just go to the redirected page? Shrug02 (talk) 08:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

There should be a link at the top of the page which allows you to get back to the redirect. For example, if you click on WP:REDIRECT, there's a note just under the title that says:

(Redirected from Wikipedia:REDIRECT)

Clicking that link and then clicking history will allow you to revert RoboCric's edit. – Joe (talk) 08:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Shrug02 (talk) 08:34, 27 June 2024 (UTC)