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    Open tasks[edit]

    XFD backlog
    V Apr May Jun Jul Total
    CfD 0 0 25 0 25
    TfD 0 0 10 0 10
    MfD 0 0 0 0 0
    FfD 0 0 0 0 0
    RfD 0 0 40 0 40
    AfD 0 0 4 0 4


    Pages recently put under extended-confirmed protection[edit]

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    Pages recently put under extended confirmed protection (19 out of 7980 total) (Purge)
    Page Protected Expiry Type Summary Admin
    Jatav 2024-07-05 07:35 indefinite edit,move Arbitration enforcement: request at WP:RFPP Ymblanter
    Keir Starmer 2024-07-05 07:29 2024-07-19 07:29 edit Ymblanter
    Health in the State of Palestine 2024-07-05 05:22 indefinite edit,move Steven Walling
    Mental health in Palestine 2024-07-04 22:52 indefinite edit,move Arbitration enforcement Steven Walling
    Hun clan 2024-07-04 21:56 2025-07-04 21:56 edit,move Persistent sockpuppetry Ponyo
    Sevens Football 2024-07-04 17:49 2025-07-04 17:49 move Persistent sock puppetry/UPE, repeated page moves despite long history of this clearly being contentious. Rosguill
    Draft:Real Malabar FC 2024-07-04 17:44 indefinite move Persistent sock puppetry linked to UPE Rosguill
    Mount Ararat 2024-07-04 08:05 2025-07-04 08:05 edit,move Contentious topic restriction: WP:CT/KURD ToBeFree
    Draft:French Revolution Bicentennial 2024-07-04 00:50 indefinite create Repeatedly recreated UtherSRG
    Draft:Maha Ali Kazmi 2024-07-03 20:15 indefinite create Daniel Case
    Template:R from draft 2024-07-03 18:00 indefinite edit,move High-risk template or module: 2501 transclusions (more info) MusikBot II
    Usman Riaz 2024-07-03 14:20 indefinite create Repeatedly recreated BusterD
    Projects 2024-07-03 10:44 indefinite edit,move Persistent sockpuppetry Favonian
    Adnan al-Bursh 2024-07-03 06:06 indefinite edit,move Arbitration enforcement CambridgeBayWeather
    Draft:One Piece (fanfic) 2024-07-03 05:46 2026-07-03 05:46 create Repeatedly recreated CambridgeBayWeather
    Nakba 2024-07-02 14:26 indefinite edit,move Arbitration enforcement - restore protection ScottishFinnishRadish
    Paul George 2024-07-02 13:04 2024-07-07 00:00 edit Persistent violations of the biographies of living persons policy from (auto)confirmed accounts Bagumba
    Klay Thompson 2024-07-02 11:20 2024-07-07 00:00 edit Persistent violations of the biographies of living persons policy from (auto)confirmed accounts Bagumba
    Tiyyar 2024-07-01 19:05 indefinite edit,move Persistent disruptive editing: per RFPP Daniel Case

    new page[edit]

    i want to create new page for minecolonies but it say you cant Denizprof (talk) 05:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Denizprof. Brand new users are limited in their ability to directly create articles. But you can work on a WP:DRAFT and submit it for review. Please see the template I left on your talk page. If you have any additional questions, I suggest dropping a note at the WP:HELPDESK. It's extremely late where I live, and I am about to go to bed. But you you can also drop me a line on my talk page. Just be aware I may not get to it right away. Happy editing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:57, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey @Denizprof, you'll want to check out Wikipedia's general notability guideline and guideline for video game notability and make sure Minecolonies warrants an article before putting effort into creating one. Zanahary 01:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A minecraft mod is unlikely to meet our notability guidelines, sorry. Secretlondon (talk) 18:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Correction on list[edit]

    My daughter's age is listed wrong on the following list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Teen_USA_2024 (says 19) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_New_Jersey_Teen_USA (on this one it's just listed as TBA) Julia Livolsi Miss New Jersey Teen USA 2024 It should be 18, not 19. Her birthday is February 21, 2006. Thank you. Glnrcker (talk) 12:24, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    There needs to be a reliable source that states her birthday. If it doesn't exist then her birthday and age shouldn't be included in the article. Nemov (talk) 12:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fwiw, at the time of your comment, the source in the article was a profile of last year's Miss Teen New Jersey, who is a different person. I have removed that source and added a CN tag, but the article needs further attention from editors who are familiar with the subject matter. I've been trying not to be my usual ornery self, but it's not great that this report sat here for 16 hours before anyone actually looked into it. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 05:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Glnrcker: What that means is that you need to provide a citation from a reliable published source which mentions her date of birth. Read WP:RS for the Wikipedia definition of what kind of sources are considered reliable. Once a reliable source confirms the information, the articles can be corrected. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:08, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have no idea what constitutes an RS in this space, but through a few quick searches I found 2 instances reporting 19[1][2] and haven't found one saying otherwise (or any with a specific birthday). CMD (talk) 05:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Problems on a family article's tp[edit]

    There is a discussion with an IP on the talk page of the page Du Quesnoy which would need some clarifications by an administrator, as I'm personnaly not sure I'm fully aware of how to interpret certain rules on the english wikipedia, although it seems clear to me that there are several problems on that talk page.
    Mostly, it's suggested that I'm libeling living people.
    Kontributor 2K (talk) 01:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Undo a move on a page with a title blacklist[edit]

    I moved Taumatawhakatangi­hangakoauauotamatea­turipukakapikimaunga­horonukupokaiwhen­uakitanatahu to Taumata Hill to be more concise. I didn't believe a reasonable person would oppose the shortening of such a lengthy title to a common name, but it is clear from the talk page (which I should looked at first) that this is controversial.

    I cannot move it on my own due to a title blacklist, apologies. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I tried but failed thanks to weirdness involving long names. Thanks Gadfium for the help. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 07:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well now I think I screwed it up. I had reverted my own move because of the soft hyphens in the title, so now it's at Taumata Hill again. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 07:10, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Archiving AN[edit]

    It seems like AN is archiving awfully fast so I looked at this page and found instructions for two different bots to archive this noticeboard. One states that discussions are archived after three days but they are obviously being archived sooner than that and they are not being archived manually. Could someone who is knowledgeable about archiving make sure that the instructions are clear and not confusing and only one bot is archiving this page? Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 08:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    One of the instructions is commented out; I changed the other to seven days. BilledMammal (talk) 08:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, BilledMammal. I appreciate you checking on this. Liz Read! Talk! 07:15, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    why isnt this page move closed? it was opned a month ago[edit]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Allegations_of_genocide_in_the_2023_Israeli_attack_on_Gaza Gsgdd (talk) 08:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect that the reason it hasn't been closed is that very few uninvolved editors have the time, ability and inclination to read and understand what people have said in that discussion. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yah - its too big. I think we need another page move with only the top titles from that discussion and ask people only to vote for one of them. what do you think? Gsgdd (talk) 08:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Anyway we need to close it asap Gsgdd (talk) 08:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    looks like these are the titles suggested
    1. Allegations of genocide in the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip
    2. Genocide accusations in the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip
    3. Gaza genocide question
    4. Gaza genocide
    5. Gaza genocide accusations
    6. Accusations of genocide in Gaza by Israel
    7. Accusations of genocide in Gaza
    8. Gaza genocide accusation
    9. Allegations of 2023–2024 genocide in Gaza
    10. Allegations of genocide in Gaza (2023–2024)
    11. Allegations of Israeli genocide in Gaza
    12. Allegations of genocide perpetrated by Israel in the Israel–Hamas war
    13. Allegations of genocide in Gaza in the Israel–Hamas war
    14. Accusations of genocide by Israel in Gaza
    15. Accusations of genocide by Israel against Palestinians
    16. Allegations of genocide by Israel against Palestinians Gsgdd (talk) 08:45, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll take a look. It will take some time to read and close. – Joe (talk) 08:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    thanks for closing it Gsgdd (talk) 22:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Requesting removal of perm[edit]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    Hi, can my pending changes reviewer permission be removed? I requested it with the intention that I was going to use it, but I hardly ever did and is essentially useless for me at this point. Thank you! Relativity ⚡️ 11:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

     Done by Jo-Jo EumerusIngenuity (t • c) 13:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Subject[edit]

    The page Casablanca derby is every time vandalized by one person who deletes the table information absolutely need protection Ji Soôo97 (talk) 15:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried requesting it here? (non-administrator comment) ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're both edit warring, and now it's locked. Please use the Talk page to establish consensus. Star Mississippi 01:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    A user with 225 edit is making edits on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide How is this possible. since its extended protection. User in question is User:Kinsio Gsgdd (talk) 02:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Please notify users on their talk page when you discuss them at this noticeboard. Kinsio (talk · contribs) is a declared (and permitted) alternate account of Gawaxay (talk · contribs), so they were manually granted extended-confirmed status. DanCherek (talk) 02:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Suspected sockpuppet?[edit]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    I’ve just come across a user, User:Coop443535454, whom I suspect is a sockpuppet. I don’t know if what I suspect is true, however I am saying this could be true because of two very similar sounding users, User:Coop40493 & User:Coop2017. The edit patterns of these users appear to be very similar. Dipper Dalmatian (talk) 04:28, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This is what WP:SPI is for. 100.36.106.199 (talk) 14:00, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Drmies, I know it's a long time ago, but the Coops belong to you. Beside the Coops, is there a master?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I didn't see anything, but I don't doubt it's them. No point in writing up at SPI. Drmies (talk) 15:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Advice needed re request to unprotect a draft[edit]

    Article Hera Pheri 3 has a long history of deletions, un-deletions and moves. I added protection to it on April 28, 2017. Not all editors/admins involved are still active. SafariScribe has requested on my talk page to un-protect Draft:Hera Pheri 3 created Feb 21, 2023. Guidance on this would be helpful. Thank you. — Maile (talk) 15:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Is there any reason they cant create in their sandbox and move it subject it to review there? Amortias (T)(C) 15:43, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Scratch that, just realised you mean to unprotect the article not the draft page. Its been submitted for review by AFC, if its approved then an admin could unprotect at that point if it has now managed to reach a suitable style/substance of article. Amortias (T)(C) 15:45, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. That was the guidance I was looking for. SafariScribe it looks like you will have to wait until that review process has been completed. — Maile (talk) 15:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Maile66, @Amortias, thank you for your words. However, I don't believe this situation will escalate to the notice board. The draft after reviewing it as part of AFC work meets WP:NFILM, and the principal photography has already started–WP:NFF. I was about to accept the draft when a pop-up message indicated that the target page is admin-protected, hence my request for unprotection of the target page so that the draft can be moved. I think there may have been a misunderstanding of my intentions. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Sockpuppet page moves[edit]

    I just blocked Leithiani as a sock of LTA Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SheryOfficial. They performed a bunch of page moves prior to the block, if anyone is looking for a 4th of July /election day project.-- Ponyobons mots 17:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    There's also Normanhunter2, a confirmed sock who participated in a bunch of AfDs; their votes should be struck.-- Ponyobons mots 22:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Resigning rollbacker/PCR[edit]

    Won't have a use for them anymore. See ya later, space cowboys. DarmaniLink (talk) 01:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

     Done I've removed those two permissions from your account as requested. DanCherek (talk) 01:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. DarmaniLink (talk) 01:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Admin Misconduct[edit]

    I am a new user so apologies if this is not the correct way to go about it, but it is an issue that undoubtedly needs attention and with the structure of Wikipedia on mobile it has taken me forever to at least find somewhere suitable enough for this.

    Prior to creating an account, I had received a year long IP block by Graham87. This has since been lifted, I do not know how, who did it, or whether how up-in-arms I was about it helped bring that along. But it has given me the ability to do something about it and I will take that ability.

    I have been very active on the Queensland Fire Department Wikipedia article recently, undoubtedly providing the most information and putting in the most work to ensure that the article reflected the recent rebranding and complete overhaul/transition from Queensland Fire and Emergency Services to QFD.

    Recently, however, I was IP banned by Graham87 for alleged “vandalism”. However I can happily provide sources for my information, they are just information I have found presented in a format that cannot be cited (such as ArcGIS maps). Following this, an unknown IP editor came in and completely destroyed a lot of my hard work, making the article extremely difficult to read and removing the neutrality. They even chucked promotional content in it. This user has not been warned or blocked at all, but I was blocked by a guy half way across the country who has numerous complaints online (search ‘graham87 block’ or ‘graham87 ban’ on google and you will find that half of the USA would be able to back me up at the very least).

    I feel that action needs to be taken against this user as he fails to follow the etiquette and guidelines of the website he is an administrator for and silences people editing in good faith while letting people while letting the true “miscreants” as he calls them slip by undetected. It’s not something anyone should stand for and is against the very thing Wikipedia seeks to provide and protect. VollyFiremedic (talk) 08:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    We can't look into the details without knowing what the IP is (but you aren't obligated to say, and please be aware that doing so may expose personal information such as your location). However, in general, it is very possible that the IP block you experienced was not targeted at you. IP ranges are usually shared between different people who have the same internet service provider, mobile provider, institution, etc. When we have persistent and long-term vandals (and I know Graham87 deals with a lot of these), we sometimes have to block the entire range knowing that there will be 'collateral damage' to others who share that range with the vandal, but haven't done anything wrong themselves. It's unfortunate but necessary. The way around it is to create an account of your own, as you have done – and not take it personally. – Joe (talk) 08:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Unfortunately, if you add material to an article without sourcing it - as you appear to have been doing - it is likely to be removed again. Editors are regularly blocked for persisting to add unsourced text. If your sources are "in a format that cannot be cited", then you need to find alternative sources. Black Kite (talk) 08:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Indeed. Yeah I've never edited that article and you may well have been affected by one of my rangeblocks. Graham87 (talk) 09:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is probably 2001:8003:EC74:DD00::/64, who made this edit. Graham87 (talk) 09:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Correct that is the IP (and another one as well which for some reason was given to me when I added over 1000 additional words). An IP block itself would not have been as worrying to me if it was not then followed by another guy completely messing up the article and adding a whole bunch of stuff that sounds like an advertisement and also removing a lot of my work which resulted in the article not making any sense at some points. I would love for someone to review that as well while we are here if possible.
    As for the citing, I am still very new to Wikipedia and the format leaves a lot to be desired for me so citing does not make sense. I was hopeful that other editors could come along and take part in some teamwork to get citations for what I wrote but perhaps I should not have been so helpful. Regardless, I do not see how lack of citations constitutes vandalism. I’m getting a lot of my information from QFD resources and brigade training and adding it in. I understand the need to cite, but my priority remains giving people access to information on topics I am passionate about. And I feel a warning prior to a year long IP ban would have been much more warranted and stand by what I have said previously. VollyFiremedic (talk) 11:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]