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List of winners in chronological order

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The pages for Le Tour (and other similar pages, like the World Cycling Championships) list winners in chronological order, i.e., oldest to most recent. Any particular reason this page is backwards? (It confused me for a minute.) (Is there any Wikipedia guideline for this sort of thing?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.192.188.20 (talk) 17:37, 28 July 2004

Ski hill details?

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The article starts by claiming that the Alpe is a 1850 m ski hill. Looking at the image one cannot help but be confused, as it looks like the slope in the background is perhaps 150 m at most. I noticed later on the page that the BOTTOM of the hill is at 1850 m... So is the ski area of the hill actually much smaller? If so, this should be what appears in the intro! Maury

the whole mountain is a ski resort, it links up with the "Les Deux Alpes" resort
the article focusses to much on cycling and as such the pic show roads, not ski resorts
just do an image search on google for "alpe d'huez ski" ,and you'll see
it's actually one of the better places to go skiing in france, if you can go outside the common holidays...


the pic in the article is basically the top of the mountain that's allready high up in the mountain , during winter that area is white, that road isn't accessible then either —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.46.207.127 (talk) 21:38, 19 July 2006

List of times for climb

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Some times from the 2004 ITT still need to be added to the table. 136 riders finished inside 48 minutes in 2004. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.161.145 (talk) 22:27, 26 April 2007

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Lance Armstrong's time from 2004 (37'36") makes him only the fifth fastest, highlighting how the 1990s saw notably faster ascents than other eras. [...] The increase in climbing speed in the 1990s had been attributed to the use of doping products, primarily Erythropoietin or EPO. A number of riders with sub-40' times, such as Alex Zülle, Riis, and Virenque, have confessed to using such products during this time. Strong evidence also exists that Pantani's records were also achieved with the assistance of EPO.

It seems you absolutely have always to find a reason to justify the fact that your great hero best-of-all-time Lance Armstrong is not the best even in this occasion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.2.110.251 (talk) 17:24, 13 July 2008

I agree with above comment. Please note the autopsy results for Pantani, that excluded intense and continuative use of EPO. The "Marco Pantani" wiki page in english, has a reference to this issue. There is no proof of EPO use for Pantani. Please correct this. I'm going to inform Pantani's family of this shame. Hi. Roberto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.241.31.125 (talk) 11:42, 3 June 2010

mistakes in the list of times

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In 1997 Jan Ullrich was 20 to 24 seconds faster than Lance Armstrong in 2001. Ullrich needed 37min 48-50sec for the climb itself (measured from the actual beginning of the climb: left turn in Bourg d'Oisans hitting the first 10% ramp), Armstrong needed 38min 10-12sec from the. This can be observed and proven by the available TV recordings one can find on the internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.64.135.163 (talk) 15:17, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The table shows Laurent Fignon being 25 seconds faster than Pedro Delgado in 1989, yet they started the climb in the same group and they crossed the finish line together. Matteomjb (talk) 10:56, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems there are still some corrections to be made about the ascent times, especially about the times of 2006. Frank Schleck won the stage that year at the summit of the Alpe d'Huez. Yet, according to the table, his time of 2006 is only ranked as the 20th fastest ascent while the times of Landis and Kloden, that same year, are ranked 7th and 8th respectively. Landis is said to have made 38'34 and Kloden 38'35. It is obvious that they couldn't have crossed the line more than two minutes before the stage winner. Same thing for Pierre Rolland in 2011. Being the stage winner, he could not have arrived 36 seconds after Samuel Sanchez. Unfortunately, I don't have the statistics, but I hope someone can check for the accurate times and change the list.--Onimarou (talk) 20:30, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The times are all over the place, some of the times appear to be based on 14.454km but some of the times on the list are based on 13.8km. The current accepted distance is 13.8. it really needs to be fully updated. Dimspace (talk) 22:49, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You were right, Dimspace! I guess this list could be very accurate since they just focus on timing climbing records. They have also one for the Mont Ventoux.

http://www.climbing-records.com/2015/07/three-riders-make-it-into-alpe-dhuez.html (Alpe d´Huez)
http://www.climbing-records.com/2013/07/mont-ventoux-2013-two-new-entries-in.html (Mont Ventoux)

13.8 km in Alpe d´Huez according to Climbing Records:

Rank Time Name Year Country
1 36' 40" Marco Pantani 1995  Italy
2 36' 53" Marco Pantani 1997  Italy
3 37' 15" Marco Pantani 1994  Italy
4 37' 36" Lance Armstrong 2004  United States
5 37' 40" Jan Ullrich 1997  Germany
6 38' 03" Lance Armstrong 2001  United States
7 38' 04" Miguel Indurain 1995  Spain
8 38' 04" Alex Zülle 1995  Switzerland
9 38' 06" Bjarne Riis 1995  Denmark
10 38' 20" Richard Virenque 1997  France
11 38' 34" Laurent Madouas 1995  France
12 38' 35" Floyd Landis 2006  United States
13 38' 35" Andreas Klöden 2006  Germany
14 38' 40" Jan Ullrich 2004  Germany
15 38' 55" Richard Virenque 1994  France
16 39' 00" Carlos Sastre 2006  Spain
17 39' 08" Iban Mayo 2003  Spain
18 39' 12" Andreas Klöden 2004  Germany
19 39' 14" José Azevedo 2004  Portugal
20 39' 14" Levi Leipheimer 2006  United States
21 39' 20" Francesco Casagrande 1997  Italy
22 39' 21" Bjarne Riis 1997  Denmark
23 39' 22" Nairo Quintana 2015  Colombia
24 39' 30" Miguel Indurain 1994  Spain
25 39' 30" Luc Leblanc 1994  France
26 39' 30" Carlos Sastre 2008  Spain
27 39' 37" Vladimir Poulnikov 1994  Ukraine
28 39' 40" Giuseppe Guerini 2004  Italy
29 39' 41" Santos González 2004  Spain
30 39' 41" Vladimir Karpets 2004  Russia
31 39' 42" Fernando Escartin 1995  Spain
32 39' 42" Claudio Chiappucci 1995  Italy
33 39' 42" Paolo Lanfranchi 1995  Italy
34 39' 46" Denis Menchov 2006  Russia
35 39' 46" Michael Rasmussen 2006  Denmark
36 39' 46" Pietro Caucchioli 2006  Italy
37 39' 48" Tony Rominger 1995  Switzerland
38 39' 48" Nairo Quintana 2013  Colombia
39 39' 51" Pavel Tonkov 1995  Russia
40 39' 51" Joaquim Rodríguez 2013  Spain
41 39' 52" Beat Zberg 1997  Switzerland
42 39' 52" Udo Bölts 1997  Germany
43 39' 52" Roberto Conti 1997  Italy
44 39' 52" Laurent Madouas 1997  France
45 39' 56" David Moncoutié 2004  France
46 39' 57" Carlos Sastre 2004  Spain
47 39' 58" Ivan Basso 2004  Italy
48 39' 58" Stéphane Goubert 2004  France
49 40' 01" Piotr Ugrumov 1994  Russia
50 40' 01" Alex Zülle 1994  Switzerland
51 40' 02" Jan Ullrich 2001  Germany
52 40' 07" Laurent Jalabert 1995  France
53 40' 07" Michael Rogers (cyclist) 2004  Australia
54 40' 12" Joseba Beloki 2001  Spain
55 40' 14" Óscar Pereiro 2006  Spain
56 40' 14" Michael Rogers (cyclist) 2006  Australia
57 40' 14" Cadel Evans 2006  Australia
58 40' 14" Ivan Parra 2006  Colombia
59 40' 15" Laurent Jalabert 1997  France
60 40' 15" Marco Fincato 1997  Italy
61 40' 18" Abraham Olano 1997  Spain
62 40' 23" Orlando Rodrigues 1997  Portugal
63 40' 27" Gianni Bugno 1991  Italy
64 40' 27" Marcos Serrano 2004  Spain
65 40' 28" Miguel Indurain 1991  Spain
66 40' 29" Luc Leblanc 1991  France
67 40' 29" Cyril Dessel 2006  France
68 40' 29" Haimar Zubeldia 2006  Spain
69 40' 31" Richard Virenque 1995  France
70 40' 31" Ivan Gotti 1995  Italy
71 40' 32" Oscar Pereiro 2004  Spain
72 40' 32" Mikel Astarloza 2006  Spain
73 40' 33" Christophe Moreau 2001  France
74 40' 39" Manuel Beltran 1997  Spain
75 40' 40" José Enrique Gutiérrez 2004  Spain
76 40' 42" Alejandro Valverde 2015  Spain
77 40' 42" Christopher Froome 2015  United Kingdom
78 40' 43" Roberto Conti 1994  Italy
79 40' 43" Oscar Pelliccioli 1994  Italy
80 40' 43" Pascal Lino 1994  France
81 40' 43" Fernando Escartin 1994  Spain
82 40' 43" Armand de Las Cuevas 1994  France
83 40' 45" Fränk Schleck 2006  Luxembourg
84 40' 46" Georg Totschnig 2004  Austria
85 40' 49" Johan Bruyneel 1995  Belgium
86 40' 49" Sandy Casar 2004  France
87 40' 49" Gilberto Simoni 2006  Italy
88 40' 53" Alexander Vinokourov 2003  Kazakhstan
89 40' 54" Richie Porte 2013  Australia
90 40' 54" Christopher Froome 2013  United Kingdom
91 40' 56" Floyd Landis 2004  United States
92 40' 56" Damiano Cunego 2006  Italy
93 40' 57" Oscar Sevilla 2001  Spain
94 40' 57" Mikel Astarloza 2004  Spain
95 40' 57" Juan Miguel Mercado 2004  Spain
96 40' 58" Alejandro Valverde 2013  Spain
97 41' 00" Christophe Moreau 2004  France
98 41' 02" Jean-Francois Bernard 1991  France
99 41' 03" Gilberto Simoni 2004  Italy
100 41' 07" Fernando Escartin 1997  Spain

Maybe the Wikipedians do some research if this is the 100% accurate list.--Niten Doraku (talk) 15:02, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]