Talk:Kurdistan
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Kurdistan article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8Auto-archiving period: 90 days ![]() |
![]() | This ![]() It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed, which has been designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
![]() | WARNING: ACTIVE COMMUNITY SANCTIONS The article Kurdistan, along with other pages relating to the Syrian Civil War and ISIL, is designated by the community as a contentious topic. The current restrictions are:
Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be sanctioned.
|
![]() | Please stay calm and civil while commenting or presenting evidence, and do not make personal attacks. Be patient when approaching solutions to any issues. If consensus is not reached, other solutions exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute. |
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 April 2024
[edit]![]() | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change the first listed language under the section of “Main languages” to Kurdish rather than Arabic as the first. For the section under “Main languages”, list Kurdish above Arabic as Kurdish is the native language of the Kurdish people rather than Arabic, and as a Kurd a lot of us cannot speak arabic altogether. 92.238.52.9 (talk) 12:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done: the languages are listed in alphabetical order. Besides, there is nothing about them in the article's body. M.Bitton (talk) 20:31, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 April 2024
[edit]![]() | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The "Main language" in info box should be arranged starting with Kurdish and then Zaza-Goran. Arabic is not the first language in any parts of Kurdistan and It can be misleading to put it first. Turkish and Persian are also spoken as second languages in some parts. Shoreshvan1 (talk) 09:01, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done: See above request.
'''[[User:CanonNi]]'''
(talk|contribs) 09:44, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 April 2024 (2)
[edit]![]() | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The Kurdish flag should be in the info box as it is the official flag at least in parts of Kurdistan which are under Kurdish rule. Also the Kurdish language is Official language in Southern and Western Kurdistan (Kurdistan within Iraq and Syria, respectively). Therefore, It makes sense to have Kurdish as official language in info box. Shoreshvan1 (talk) 09:13, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done: This article is about the geographical region. The flag is used at Kurdistan Region.
'''[[User:CanonNi]]'''
(talk|contribs) 09:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)- The Kurdish flag is considered by many Kurds in the whole geographical region as a symbol of Kurdish identity and nationalism. It has historically been used in different periods in different regions of the great Kurdistan an it is not only representing Kurdistan Region (in Iraq). So, I think it makes sense to add it here too. Shoreshvan1 (talk) 14:30, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 April 2024
[edit]![]() | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The main language in the region is kurdish not Arabic. Rha999 (talk) 17:34, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 18:22, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Reliable sources? What? That Kurds speak Kurdish? That that's their language? That Arabic, Turkish, and Farsi is their secondary language due to them being occupied by these countries? What sources do you need besides the entire wiki page on Kurdistan? Kurds are not Arabs! It should not be listed first. 70.29.13.217 (talk) 01:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Poor image choice
[edit]Greater kurdistan is about where kurds used to settle in anceint time that is why we should use median empire image from median state article in wikipedia 185.187.76.204 (talk) 15:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- im just curious why this map is sourced by the CIA? also the map of the southern caucus says it's from the CIA. is there like no actual maps for the Kurdish peoples that are more historic or like based on archeology or sociology?
- Ist the CIA really the leading source on where the Kurdish peoples are from? Seems strange that this even involves the CIA.
- Shouldn't we be looking at the science instead of something the CIA cooked up? What does the map look like based on leading Kurdish historians?
- Just feels strange to believe the CIA for something like this. 80.139.97.40 (talk) 22:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 August 2024
[edit]![]() | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please change the map it's wrong and it's misleading many people this is right map: https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=d621e0682869cae1&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWILdIHjzhVt-M62k55znAnsjSu4cDg:1723668756540&q=Kurdistan+map&tbm=isch&source=lnms&fbs=AEQNm0Aa4sjWe7Rqy32pFwRj0UkWes8q_lhF7QeUbDnfV9ySX42gfGqPuX1NuFMn-WP7Z_IQkaHt27duLdXy2YH0VHNERUKBTkVsrj7pIiRD0p5baUShbt8JFE4KOFKCyYN3GEzUNIKJu9YYndNwq7zTSV3vpkHKWBHoqhUddQOaie7N9uLrslQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7r8a_rvWHAxX0SvEDHTjoE6YQ0pQJegQIFBAB&biw=360&bih=668&dpr=2#imgrc=zzN7XCShoRAw3M 185.75.226.69 (talk) 20:54, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done: Please make your request for a new image to be uploaded to Files For Upload. Once the file has been properly uploaded, feel free to reactivate this request to have the new image used. PianoDan (talk) 16:48, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 August 2024
[edit]![]() | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
For the the etymology of Kurdistan. In Kartvelian (georgian) კურდღელი, (K'urdgheli) means rabbit. During antiquities, the exonym of the region spanning from inner Georgia, to suth-eastern turkey, was 'Iberia', which same as the 'Iberian peninsula', means 'land of the rabbits'. 2001:16B8:C0AA:7B00:5C08:425A:D6CF:30F9 (talk) 01:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done, please put this in the format of "Change X to Y"
Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 02:42, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 August 2024 (2)
[edit]![]() | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please Change Kurdistan (Kurdish: کوردستان, romanized: Kurdistan, lit. 'land of the Kurds'; [ˌkʊɾdɪˈstɑːn] ),<ref
Into Kurdistan ({{lang-ku|کوردستان|Kurdistan|lit=land of the Kurds}}; {{IPA-ku|ˌkʊɾdɪˈstɑːn||Ku-Kurdistan.oga}}),<ref; Potentially derived from Kartvelian, კურდღელი, K'urdgheli which means rabbit in english. The proximity to the 'Kingdom of Iberia' which was a Latin exonym and, ment same as with the modern Iberian peninsula, 'land of the rabbits' would make such a connection plausible.
2001:16B8:C088:D00:5C08:425A:D6CF:30F9 (talk) 03:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done, can you provide a source for please? If you can, just reactivate this request, do not make a new one.
Kingsmasher678 (talk) 03:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Look up further "lezgistan" (here on Wikipedia) where in the sub part, 'Historical etymology',it says, that ancient greek historians such as Strabo, Herodotus, and Pliny the Elder, call the people of the east coast of the Black sea (south Caucasus), 'Legoi'. The greek word for 'Hare'(male rabbit) is 'Lágos'.
- The sanskrit term for 'Hare' is शश zaza, which are also a people in Eastern turkey, who are direct neighbors of the Kurds.
- https://www.learnsanskrit.cc/translate?search=Hare&dir=au
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lezgistan
- Hope that is enough coincidental evidence to at least make the Kurdistan = 'land of the rabbits/hares'a reasonable conclusion, even though we can not outright declare that it is definitely the root of the name. 2001:16B8:C088:D00:5C08:425A:D6CF:30F9 (talk) 11:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I honestly, even would like to add the connection with Zaza being both, a Kurdish tribe that speaks a [[Zaza language|dialect of Kurdish]]/Kurdish that lives as direct neighbors to the Kurds, and the Sanskrit word for Hare, शश, as I think that this adds another layer to the possibility of Kurd, really being an exonym given by Kartvelian speakers.
- კურდღელი, (K'urdgheli, romanized), meaning Rabbit.
- https://www.learnsanskrit.cc/translate?search=Hare&dir=au 2001:16B8:C088:D00:5C08:425A:D6CF:30F9 (talk) 11:35, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Another word for, being phonetically not that far apart from the word Kurd, is the Farsi/Persian/Iranian خرگوش Khargoosh, romanized, meaning again 'rabbit' or 'hare'.
- https://laatingar.com/
- Ofcourse there will be phonetic differences, as I'm sadly only capable of providing modern language examples. 2001:16B8:C088:D00:5C08:425A:D6CF:30F9 (talk) 11:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Would like to add
[edit]I honestly, would even like to add,शश Zaza being the Sankrit word for Hare and the Zaza people speaking a dialect of Kurdish to the original change request. [1]https://www.learnsanskrit.cc/translate?search=Hare&dir=au 2001:16B8:C088:D00:5C08:425A:D6CF:30F9 (talk) 11:24, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- sadly, I'm only capable of providing modern language examples, so the phonetic doesn't mach a 100%.
- But another word with simmilar phonetic to 'Kurd' is the Farsi/Persian/Iranian term for again 'rabbit'/'hare', خرگوش Khargoosh, romanized.
- https://laatingar.com/
- A Romanization site for Persian script.
- I have not found a better one. 2001:16B8:C088:D00:5C08:425A:D6CF:30F9 (talk) 11:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- B-Class vital articles
- Wikipedia level-4 vital articles
- Wikipedia vital articles in Geography
- B-Class level-4 vital articles
- Wikipedia level-4 vital articles in Geography
- B-Class vital articles in Geography
- B-Class Kurdistan articles
- Top-importance Kurdistan articles
- WikiProject Kurdistan articles
- B-Class Turkey articles
- High-importance Turkey articles
- All WikiProject Turkey pages
- B-Class Iraq articles
- High-importance Iraq articles
- WikiProject Iraq articles
- B-Class Syria articles
- High-importance Syria articles
- WikiProject Syria articles
- B-Class Armenian articles
- High-importance Armenian articles
- WikiProject Armenia articles
- B-Class Iran articles
- High-importance Iran articles
- WikiProject Iran articles
- B-Class Western Asia articles
- High-importance Western Asia articles
- WikiProject Western Asia articles
- B-Class geography articles
- Top-importance geography articles
- WikiProject Geography articles
- Wikipedia articles under general sanctions