Talk:Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem

Montana Mid‑importance

	Montana portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Montana, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of Montana on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MontanaWikipedia:WikiProject MontanaTemplate:WikiProject MontanaMontana articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States: Wyoming Mid‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Wyoming portal This article is supported by WikiProject Wyoming (assessed as Top-importance).

Ecology Mid‑importance

	Ecology portal This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Ecology, an effort to create, expand, organize, and improve ecology-related articles.EcologyWikipedia:WikiProject EcologyTemplate:WikiProject EcologyEcology articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.

Environment Mid‑importance

	Environment portal This environment-related article is part of the WikiProject Environment to improve Wikipedia's coverage of the environment. The aim is to write neutral and well-referenced articles on environment-related topics, as well as to ensure that environment articles are properly categorized. Read Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ and leave any messages at the project talk page.EnvironmentWikipedia:WikiProject EnvironmentTemplate:WikiProject EnvironmentEnvironment articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Recency

Much of the data used here is outdated, particularly in the section about grizzly bears.Wildernest42 (talk) 22:23, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled

Redirects: Greater Yellowstone, Greater Yellowstone ecosystem

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 6 external links on Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:08, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Restructuring

I think Longleaf pine ecosystem serves as a good model for how this article should be structured. This seems to be almost entirely about conservation and very little about what the ecosystem is actually like now. I will try to write a "Animal and plant diversity" section, an ecology section (which is sorely missing) and then change the "management by species" section into a decline/conservation/management/concerns today section. FergusArgyll (talk) 17:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Look forward to your work on the Management by species section. I think the History and Protected areas are in pretty good shape. Cheers, 〜 Adflatuss • talk 19:27, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, agree on History and Protected areas.

I noticed you've done a lot for this page, so I would appreciate if you can help keep me balanced (not do too much etc.)

I started the animal and plant diversity section, meanwhile did large mammals, let me know what you think of it... FergusArgyll (talk) 22:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok 〜 Adflatuss • talk 22:27, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess as I'm writing this I'm trying to figure out; how different is this / should it be from the article on the natl. park?

any clearly delineated lines you can think of? FergusArgyll (talk) 22:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The national Park is well covered so if it feels like it is just rehashing the same stuff than it is probably unnecessary here. Unlike the national park centered on tourism and preservation, people live, ranch, hunt, and host visitors in the GYE outside the park. That makes this a very different environment such as the awareness of wolves and bison of hunters. The park is still in the center but the interaction, tension, and impact within this larger area is the main topic of this article. Regards, 〜 Adflatuss • talk 03:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's interesting, in the natl park article under "biology and ecology" section it says Main articles: Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem and Ecology of the Rocky Mountains. so maybe this should be the place to talk about those.

In the Ecosystem page this sticks out to me: "An ecosystem (or ecological system) consists of all the organisms and the abiotic pools (or physical environment) with which they interact. The biotic and abiotic components are linked together through nutrient cycles and energy flows."

Maybe we should highlight the interactions between the various animals plants and geological phenomena. like this https://doi.org/10.2307%2F3872937 , https://doi.org/10.1890%2F1051-0761%282001%29011%5B0947%3AAMPPIG%5D2.0.CO%3B2 and https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/influence-of-geology.htm#:~:text=geology%20also%20influences FergusArgyll (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

some thing like this: (I need to rework it and make it coherent, add sources etc. but the general idea)

The underlying geology has a profound impact on soil composition, water availability, and nutrient distribution, which in turn influence vegetation patterns and wildlife habitat. For instance, the volcanic rhyolites and tuffs found in the Yellowstone Caldera create nutrient-poor soils^[1], supporting pine forests adapted to these conditions.^[2] In contrast, the andesitic rocks of the Absaroka Mountains weather into soils richer in nutrients, fostering diverse plant communities.^[1]

The distribution of prey species is often linked to the availability of specific plant communities,^[3] which are influenced by soil type, elevation, and slope. FergusArgyll (talk) 11:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ ^a ^b Anderson, Ryan (2022–2023). Dynamic Earth Through the Lens of Yellowstone.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: date format (link)
^ Pierce, Kenneth; Despain, Don; Morgan, Lisa; Good, John (2007-01-01). "The Yellowstone Hotspot, Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem, and Human Geography". United States Geological Survey: Publications.
^ Ripple, William J.; Beschta, Robert L.; Painter, Luke E. (October 2015). "Trophic cascades from wolves to alders in Yellowstone". Forest Ecology and Management. 354: 254–260. doi:10.1016/j.foreco.2015.06.007. ISSN 0378-1127.

[:0-1] Anderson, Ryan (2022–2023). Dynamic Earth Through the Lens of Yellowstone.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: date format (link)

[2] Pierce, Kenneth; Despain, Don; Morgan, Lisa; Good, John (2007-01-01). "The Yellowstone Hotspot, Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem, and Human Geography". United States Geological Survey: Publications.

[3] Ripple, William J.; Beschta, Robert L.; Painter, Luke E. (October 2015). "Trophic cascades from wolves to alders in Yellowstone". Forest Ecology and Management. 354: 254–260. doi:10.1016/j.foreco.2015.06.007. ISSN 0378-1127.

[1]

[2]

[3]